How much stronger is crossover steering?
- Thread starter Eddie Greenlee
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It’s not any stronger at all. It’s also a poor idea for your TJ if you’re running factory axles, see this thread:
https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/what-is-the-best-steering-for-my-jeep-wrangler-tj.2956/
The reason you see it on a lot of those rigs is because they are running aftermarket, wider axles. That requires an entirely different steering setup as the factory steering will no longer work.
Doing this with your factory TJ axles is not only a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist, it’s also opening things up for a lot of steering related problems.
That and I’m not sure you could pay me to run anything from Steinjager.
https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/what-is-the-best-steering-for-my-jeep-wrangler-tj.2956/
The reason you see it on a lot of those rigs is because they are running aftermarket, wider axles. That requires an entirely different steering setup as the factory steering will no longer work.
Doing this with your factory TJ axles is not only a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist, it’s also opening things up for a lot of steering related problems.
That and I’m not sure you could pay me to run anything from Steinjager.
thanks, I was just using the picture as an example. I should have said that , ha I dont even know Steinjager. So couldnt atest to good or bad.
The best steering you’re going to get for your TJ is the Currie setup, hands down. The crossover setup is what most do when they go to full-width axles due to having to custom fab a steering setup.
As mentioned in that other post, they are inherently more prone to death wobble.
Factory Dana 44 Rubicon axles and the Currie / Savvy steering.
Honestly I have had nothing but problems with my currie steering set up with it hitting my diff cover and causing bump steer. I switched to a similar setup to Ruffstuffs "inverted y" except I built mine from scratch and it fixed all my problems.
Your axle was too far forward. Can't blame the steering on that.
No, you have and had problems understanding why stuff has to work the way it does. I also doubt very seriously that you have inverted Y and instead have inverted T unless RS started a new product for the TJ I'm not familiar with. That and you added a heretofore unknown dimension to bump steer and that is sorta special.
But, I do have to ask what trackbar you are running since that usually gets hit first when you are unfamiliar with how to set a rig up.
I stand corrected you are right it was an inverted t, not y. You are correct, in the beginning I had no idea what pieces went with what. The stock steering geometry is not ideal for hydro assist (based on the research i've done and the people i've talked to ) But since the inverted t is better suited for the assist. I had problems with my currie with bumpsteer and hitting the ox locker diff which is thicker than stock so my problems came from pieces not fitting together. But to talk about track bar. I made my own since I made my mounts (axle side and frame side) to allow the bar to be the same length as my custom drag link. Had to make the custom drag link since I made my own frame in the front. I raised the frame and got rid of the front body mount under the grill, took an inch out of the whole front clip, inch out of the steering shaft, rotated my steering box, and made my own pitman arm (similar to the genright one but mines not rotated like theirs) . The whole front end is completely custom besides copying the ruff stuff inverted t set up . and @jjvw my front axle isn't pushed forward, arms are set at stock length and hence why I cut an inch out of the front clip to help the tires clear the back of the fenders
Stock frame cut
starting the front half
inverted t
cut out an inch
track bar installed
seems to work pretty well my opinion
and sits lower than my buddies on 35's with a 4 inch lift so I think its set up pretty well for rock crawling and daily driving.And to answer the op, if you are looking for a new steering setup, i personally recommend the inverted t. Both jeeps in the bottom pic are daily driven with it and we both have no complains and both run no stabilizer. (My hydro comes off when the jeep gets home from the trail)
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Thus the "stop giving folks steering advice".
I had hard time following what he did but the first few photos show currie steering and a modified axle side track bar bracket. I wonder why he had bump steer?
@Eddie Greenlee
You thought choosing wheels and tires was difficult?
Look at the can of worms you've opened now.
You thought choosing wheels and tires was difficult?
Look at the can of worms you've opened now.
i see that . ya know I respect anyones opinion. Myself? i just like knowing the WHY and HOW things work , it just intriques me . I have never been one to just accept a one word answer.@Eddie Greenlee
You thought choosing wheels and tires was difficult?
Look at the can of worms you've opened now.
