GPS Upgrade - Looking for Options for a Rugged Android Tablet

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I've been running a Lowrance GPS unit since 2017. It's been great, and has served me well. It is accurate, bright, permanently installed, rugged, and theft proof. The sonar features let me see the rocks very clearly. Did I mention rugged? Here it is:

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What I like about this unit is that it is absolutely bullet proof. I don't worry about weather or theft. It never overheats, and has been 100% reliable. It is permanently mounted to the dash bar, and stays in the rig. I have built many of my own maps on the parks I frequent, as well as Moab and Colorado. There is a lot of wheelin' history in this thing.

But, it has become a bit of a dinosaur (a bit like me, I guess). The Lowrance uses a proprietary map format, and requires a translation to upload or download .GPX files. It works, but has always been a bit of a pain. Also, I used to be able to create and upload satellite imagery, but the proprietary (again...) programs to do so are no longer supported by Lowrance.

So I'm reluctantly considering going to a tablet based system on which I can run something like OnX or Giaa. I have a subscription to OnX and have been playing around with it a good bit. It is much, much more flexible than the Lowrance, with many more modern features. In the Jeep I am able to access it from my iphone via Car Play on my head unit, but I prefer having a dedicated GPS that is always there (including when the rig is off). Further, in my brief experience with OnX you cannot access all of the features via Car Play, and still have to access the iphone to do many of the key functions.

So I'm looking at tablets. But I'm not looking for something like an iPad mini or other consumer-grade (for lack of a better term) tablet. I want something that will be durable, reliable, will handle heat, water, and vibration. I also want something that I can permanently install in the same location as the current Lowance - and not have to worry at all about theft. I need to be able to bang on the thing without worrying about breakage - in other words, I'm looking for something like this Lowrance unit which will run Android... :unsure:

I do need something that is tough, but will also have a bunch of on-board storage to load off-line maps. routes, etc. - something like a terabyte if I can find it. I know I could get that in an iPad, but I've not yet found a rugged unit which approaches that. I'd prefer internal storage, but external disks would also be fine, as that is how the Lowrance works.

I've looked at things like the ToughPad, and other units made for field work like construction, mining, and similar uses.

I did come across this unit which is designed for a SxS. It looks interesting, but low on storage, and only supports smaller external disks. I do seem to be having more success when I look for units which are designed to work in SxS's. This unit looks to have a mount which I could modify to meet my install needs.

https://sxsruggedtablets.com/produc...04542&pr_ref_pid=6717402906782&pr_seq=uniform

So now I'm looking for some guidance from my forum buddies. Any recommendations on a tablet that will fit my needs? Anything else I should consider?

Thanks in advance,
Ol' Nashville TJ
 
So I'm looking at tablets. But I'm not looking for something like an iPad mini or other consumer-grade (for lack of a better term) tablet. I want something that will be durable, reliable, will handle heat, water, and vibration. I also want something that I can permanently install in the same location as the current Lowance - and not have to worry at all about theft. I need to be able to bang on the thing without worrying about breakage - in other words, I'm looking for something like this Lowrance unit which will run Android...

Sounds like you're going in the right direction trying to avoid consumer grade crap. I don't have the answer, but I'll be interested in what you end up with. Makes a ton more sense than a PHOOOOOONNE for sure.
 
More like the Lowrance you & I have now but what about the Garmin GPS?

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/732737/pn/010-02508-00

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I’ve looked at that unit. Quite a bit actually, and nearly went that way about a year ago. It’s rugged, but it suffers many of the disadvantages of standalone GPS units I mentioned above. Although there is no translation involved, getting routes and waypoints from my desktop - where I do most of my trip planning - is still a pain. On OnX, for example, tracks, waypoints, and routes are automatically shared across all of my devices, which is cool.

On these Gamin units - and I run the motorcycle equivalent on all my bikes - the satellite imagery available is Garmin’s Birdseye. The resolution is not very good, and it is crazy time consuming to load large areas onto the unit. You have to select small areas and download them to the PC, and then transfer them to the Tread. I loaded up imagery from the Wyoming BDR last year, and it took forever. I mean days. I believe that there is a way to download directly to the device, but it is crazy slow.

It’s also not cheap to subscribe to Birdseye. And to add insult to injury, their servers automatically slow your download if you try to download a bunch of data. Talk about pissing off your best customers…
 
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I like it. And how cool would it be to have a “Snapdragon” in the rig…🙂

You may not need all the benefits of that one it's just the first one I saw that looked decent. It has swappable batteries which probably isn't beneficial if you are running power to it. It specifically mentioned vibration and drops.

Looks like they can somewhat customize them to your needs.
 
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I like it. And how cool would it be to have a “Snapdragon” in the rig…🙂

Edit: Took a look - this looks promising. Also has a sturdy metal mount available that I could modify to mount to the dash bar.

Can’t wait to see the price…😳

If you get a better discount by buying more than one let me know... I'm in the same boat as you except mine is so old there isn't any support for it so I really need to replace mine.
 
In my experience with ruggedized tablets and laptops...they often cost a small fortune and have dismal processors, RAM and storage. We often can purchase three machines with roughly twice the specs for the same price as one "ruggedized." Often we just purchase a couple of spares and acknowledge they're going to get smashed up.

-Mac
 
In my experience with ruggedized tablets and laptops...they often cost a small fortune and have dismal processors, RAM and storage. We often can purchase three machines with roughly twice the specs for the same price as one "ruggedized." Often we just purchase a couple of spares and acknowledge they're going to get smashed up.

-Mac

This is more or less what my son has been recommending to me. Buy a tablet & get one of the rugged cases for it and run it til I break it then replace it. It's not what I consider to be optimum but it might be the answer.

Spending days adding waypoints to a card to them find out after all that work you'd forgotten to format it or convert the files to the proper setting for your Lowrance GPS could be such a PITA. Happened to me the last time I went to Moab.
 
In my experience with ruggedized tablets and laptops...they often cost a small fortune and have dismal processors, RAM and storage. We often can purchase three machines with roughly twice the specs for the same price as one "ruggedized." Often we just purchase a couple of spares and acknowledge they're going to get smashed up.

-Mac

We've done that too - but if the machine is mission critical, that may not be the best choice. Ya payz ya money and ya takez ya chancez...
 
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This is more or less what my son has been recommending to me. Buy a tablet & get one of the rugged cases for it and run it til I break it then replace it. It's not what I consider to be optimum but it might be the answer.
I will say this: Apple does not make consumer grade crap - its commercial grade which is why its so expensive. BUT - in its turn, commercial grade doesn't equate to industrial or military grade. Commercial grade is plenty fine for MOST situations. In the PC realm, Dell, Lenovo, and HP all make commercial grade hardware that costs about the same as an equivalent Apple, but you don't find that stuff at Mall*Wart or Best Buy. I have no idea about commercial grade Android tablets.