Yeah… I live in a valley in the middle of the Cascades. Snow driving is part and parcel of life 6 months out of the year. Definitely not climbing up out of the valley on unplowed roads at 0-dark 30 in 2WD when I can pull the lever. Yes, 4WD can get you in trouble if you think it’s a cure all for compact snow and ice and do stupid things like 60 or tailgate the plow truck. Best to leave that to the weekenders in their Trail Rated Minivans. Someone has to keep the tow companies busy pulling them out of the banks and ditches.