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2005 Soft Top Help

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Need help identifying this soft top manufacturer/model that came with recently purchased 05 Rubihara. No branding or hardware was included, and missing windows where branding/logo might have been. Best I can tell there is a bolt or screw that connects to the sport bar in one spot only (in photo the two red circles), which looks different than the OEM soft top. Folks at 4wd and Morris weren't able to help and my in-laws "jeep guy" out in indiana wasn't able to either. Anyone got any idea? Photos attached

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I would try to help but I’m having to go to the speech therapist after reading your avatar name.

Bestop is the most popular - Hopefully someone can chime in and help
 
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By the time you find brackets and windows, it might be cheaper (or easier) to buy a whole top.
Do you have door surrounds?
If the only thing you end up needing is those brackets (on the roll bar),
I'm pretty sure I have some.
 
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So you have a LJ otherwise known as Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.
you are correct the soft top does connect to the bracket on the roll cage.
There is no hole on the other side because it’s threaded on the no hole side .
That piece slips in the roll bar bracket with a screw that has a Allen head.

Looks like a factory soft top to me. I wouldn’t try to find replacement windows I’ll just buy a whole new top

You can get a replacement top from Bestop. You can also email them to see if they have the hardware you need.
 
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That is the OE sailcloth and frame. It also appears to be khaki diamond so you're very unlikely to find matching windows. Part of the issue with attempting to put it up without the bracket screws is that it can't pivot up. Looks like you need windows, bracket screws and door surrounds. To use the sunrider feature, you also need door surrounds with retaining brackets.

Bestop 55012-01 Door Surrounds
Mopar Shoulder Screws
 
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@LONGJP2 @AjRagno @06TJ35's thank you for all the help, really. I called bestop a couple hours ago and they received my emailed photos and think it is their supertop nx that is missing pieces. They sent me the installation instructions w/parts list: https://www.bestop.com/wp-content/uploads/Installation Instructions/BDKW_54721-INS_001.pdf. After looking at that, I definitely don't have door surrounds or tailgate bar. I also have zero hardware (screws/fasteners). I'm guessing, including tax, $380 for door surrounds and tailgate bar. Not sure if a top arch is needed vs recommended, and not sure what all the screws/fasteners would cost as well.

I've been watching youtubes on bestop supertop nx installations on tj's and what I have looks different, though (see second photo attached). First, the top as given to me is one piece, with the bows attached as depicted in the photo I'm attaching. If it was a bestop supertop nx, it should be two pieces/bows, with each bow attaching separately to the sport bar/roll bar (aside: is it possible the prior owner just fastened these bows together for convenience while storing?). Second, if this is a bestop supertop nx, why wouldn't i have the bestop pivot brackets already installed on the sport bar (who buys a $1250 top and then never uses it)? Third, did bestop even make a khaki diamond LJ soft top?

@AjRagno seems pretty confident it is OE LJ soft top, but again, my soft top is currently all in one piece with the bows fastened together. My understanding of the OEM is that it is also two bows attaching at two different places to the sport bar (based on stryker youtube video
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Because this is a rubihara with only ~80k miles, I would ideally want to have the OE top in khaki diamond, but a quick google search returned no khaki diamond LJ windows at any price. But I'm stubborn and will hunt it down.

Attaching another photo I took of the header-end in case it is somehow useful

Thanks again for the help!

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Looks like the bracket is already on the roll bar.
Also, that picture is of a TJ, not an LJ.
 
@LONGJP2 @AjRagno @06TJ35's thank you for all the help, really. I called bestop a couple hours ago and they received my emailed photos and think it is their supertop nx that is missing pieces. They sent me the installation instructions w/parts list: https://www.bestop.com/wp-content/uploads/Installation Instructions/BDKW_54721-INS_001.pdf. After looking at that, I definitely don't have door surrounds or tailgate bar. I also have zero hardware (screws/fasteners). I'm guessing, including tax, $380 for door surrounds and tailgate bar. Not sure if a top arch is needed vs recommended, and not sure what all the screws/fasteners would cost as well.

I've been watching youtubes on bestop supertop nx installations on tj's and what I have looks different, though (see second photo attached). First, the top as given to me is one piece, with the bows attached as depicted in the photo I'm attaching. If it was a bestop supertop nx, it should be two pieces/bows, with each bow attaching separately to the sport bar/roll bar (aside: is it possible the prior owner just fastened these bows together for convenience while storing?). Second, if this is a bestop supertop nx, why wouldn't i have the bestop pivot brackets already installed on the sport bar (who buys a $1250 top and then never uses it)? Third, did bestop even make a khaki diamond LJ soft top?

@AjRagno seems pretty confident it is OE LJ soft top, but again, my soft top is currently all in one piece with the bows fastened together. My understanding of the OEM is that it is also two bows attaching at two different places to the sport bar (based on stryker youtube video
)

Because this is a rubihara with only ~80k miles, I would ideally want to have the OE top in khaki diamond, but a quick google search returned no khaki diamond LJ windows at any price. But I'm stubborn and will hunt it down.

Attaching another photo I took of the header-end in case it is somehow useful

Thanks again for the help!

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Tj soft top frames are different than LJ soft top frames. You have an LJ.
I’m confident you have a stock LJ frame and soft top.
Another thing Bestop is OEM. Bestop makes factory jeep soft tops. So it would be their frame.
Seems you are missing a lot of hardware and being that you are missing windows to. I’ll just buy a brand new soft top with the frame.
 
Because this is a rubihara with only ~80k miles, I would ideally want to have the OE top in khaki diamond, but a quick google search returned no khaki diamond LJ windows at any price. But I'm stubborn and will hunt it down.

If your 80k vehicle was comprised of all original parts I'd better understand your logic for pursuing an OEM Khaki Diamond top due to the mileage/model.

With that said, it's your vehicle and you should do exactly what you want.
 
I'd suggest getting the 2 bracket screws and door surrounds and going from there. This will be enough to mount the top and drive. If it's not clear, the LJ uses a single mouting point on each side whereas the TJ uses 2 mounting points.

That link I posted earlier will include the door surrounds for the sunrider and a rear window retainer, if you need that.
 
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