Ford F150 3.5 Eco Boost vs 5.0

trojandawg · Jul 19, 2023

Here she (Grenda) is on Vilano Beach Near St. Augustine last year.

They are crazy expensive, but it will do anything you ask. It's basically an SUV, 4x4 truck, towing vehicle, luxury vehicle, all in one.

Apparition · Jul 19, 2023

Come on Chris, you can do it

CreepinDeth · Jul 19, 2023

Shank said:
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Yet more GM trucks are sold every year.

Hecho en Mexico??

Pay attention to those VIN #s and dont buy anything that starts with a 3. Ford is the domestic leader fellas.

I was GM loyal til they dicked over America in 2008 & 2009. Obama and Bush let it all happen, and now the LSx legacy is gone to crap with GenV & all these cylinder shitdown crap eatin up engine valvetrains

Never wanted a Ford til that happened….
Now I have full faith in their trucks since 2011 as Apparition noted in SDs but also in light dutys

freedom_in_4low · Jul 19, 2023

CreepinDeth said:
Hecho en Mexico??

Pay attention to those VIN #s and dont buy anything that starts with a 3. Ford is the domestic leader fellas.

I was GM loyal til they dicked over America in 2008 & 2009. Obama and Bush let it all happen, and now the LSx legacy is gone to crap with GenV & all these cylinder shitdown crap eatin up engine valvetrains

Never wanted a Ford til that happened….
Now I have full faith in their trucks since 2011 as Apparition noted in SDs but also in light dutys

I had a brother in law that was a hardcore IBEW union guy. He and his wife always gave us crap for every foreign vehicle we owned. It felt soooooo satisfying to point out that my "Jap" car was built in the US and his Chevrolet was built in Mexico.

Shank · Jul 19, 2023

CreepinDeth said:
Hecho en Mexico??

Pay attention to those VIN #s and dont buy anything that starts with a 3. Ford is the domestic leader fellas.

I was GM loyal til they dicked over America in 2008 & 2009. Obama and Bush let it all happen, and now the LSx legacy is gone to crap with GenV & all these cylinder shitdown crap eatin up engine valvetrains

Never wanted a Ford til that happened….
Now I have full faith in their trucks since 2011 as Apparition noted in SDs but also in light dutys

I'm all for supporting US workers but it's starting to become a question if the quality isn't in fact worse.

CreepinDeth · Jul 19, 2023

Yep Toyota Tundra was the #2 pickup iirc behind the F150 for years, and may even be #1 now for domestic prroduction AND sourced parts

Wrangler was #1 overall for a few years
Not sure now
https://www.chicagotribune.com/autos/sc-autocover-most-american-made-cars-20170628-story.html
GM took alot of heat for MOST crew cabs (biggest seller) made in Silao Mexico, and brought here for US sales. The F150 is also made in Mexico STRICTLY for the Mexican market as the Ford Lobos

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-mexican-ford-f-150-has-a-way-cooler-name/

Apparition · Jul 19, 2023

CreepinDeth said:
Yep Toyota Tundra was the #2 pickup iirc behind the F150 for years, and may even be #1 now for domestic prroduction AND sourced parts

Wrangler was #1 overall for a few years
Not sure now
[URL]https://www.chicagotribune.com/autos/sc-autocover-most-american-made-cars-20170628-story.html[/URL]

GM took alot of heat for MOST crew cabs (biggest seller) made in Silao Mexico, and brought here for US sales. The F150 is also made in Mexico STRICTLY for the Mexican market as the Ford Lobos

[URL]https://www.motorbiscuit.com/the-mexican-ford-f-150-has-a-way-cooler-name/[/URL]

Ford still can't produce enough trucks. If I knew I could order what I wanted I'd go see if I could work a deal out on a new one but I'm not playing the "we can't get this part so we removed it from your build" game.

Shank · Jul 19, 2023

Apparition said:
Ford still can't produce enough trucks. If I knew I could order what I wanted I'd go see if I could work a deal out on a new one but I'm not playing the "we can't get this part so we removed it from your build" game.

Individual parts, maybe, but nothing around here is selling. Lots are almost full again. A buddy heard on the radio $9,000 off a new Gladiator.

CreepinDeth · Jul 19, 2023

Apparition said:
Ford still can't produce enough trucks. If I knew I could order what I wanted I'd go see if I could work a deal out on a new one but I'm not playing the "we can't get this part so we removed it from your build" game.

Frankly I wont ever buy new from the factory again because of this fukkery from the Plandemic and hyperinflation

They have put waaaaaay too many electronics and INVOLUNTARY tracking systems into them for my comfort zone with my privacy. Per my buddy at the State Dept overseas EVERY new vehicle sold today tracks EVERY location its ever been to, and they do not inform the buyer of this

State Dept mercenaries and spies abroad recieve specialized training on how to disable and wipe clean these tracking systems because of the nature of their work. Americans are now lab rats for spying domestically

GM started it all with OnStar back in 1996, and the FBI was remotely and illegally accessing vehicles microphones without warrants. They were told to stop in 2003 and ignored the courts ….nothing happens to them either, and now its full scale

Speakin of Ford, did you see the $2 Billion in SuperDuty inventory sittin in an empty race field during the plandemic?? Waitin on Parts abroad….total shitshow what our politicians of the Uniparty allowed to happen

CreepinDeth · Jul 19, 2023

Shank said:
Individual parts, maybe, but nothing around here is selling. Lots are almost full again. A buddy heard on the radio $9,000 off a new Gladiator.

My brother in law just finished Rubicon trail this weekend and countless Gladiators broke down.

Apparition · Jul 19, 2023

Shank said:
Individual parts, maybe, but nothing around here is selling. Lots are almost full again. A buddy heard on the radio $9,000 off a new Gladiator.

2023 order banks for Superduties filled up pretty much on day one. People still haven't received some of those trucks and are being rolled to 2024's.

One dealer has an allocation of about 400 2024 Superduties, in that allocation they have been given only 22 platinum model allocations.

Gladiators are stupidly overpriced for what they are in comparison to a normal truck. Look at their YTD sales change -29.49%.

Model	Month	Month LY	Change	YTD	YTD LY	YTD Change
Ford F-Series	72,355	57,673	25.46	382,893	299,345	27.91
Chevrolet Silverado	47,711	46,313	3.02	268,291	261,827	2.47
Ram Pickup	39,743	38,792	2.45	223,050	244,984	-8.95
GMC Sierra	25,598	20,511	24.80	143,008	118,938	20.24
Toyota Tacoma	21,321	21,339	-0.08	116,845	108,648	7.54
Toyota Tundra	9,775	7,098	37.71	59,735	44,316	34.79
Chevrolet Colorado	6,723	7,404	-9.20	33,165	44,190	-24.95
Nissan Frontier	5,812	6,833	-14.94	34,139	43,168	-20.92
Jeep Gladiator	4,643	6,860	-32.32	27,326	38,756	-29.49
Ford Maverick	7,473	3,882	92.50	42,499	38,753	9.67
Ford Ranger	4,415	5,108	-13.57	24,118	33,840	-28.73
Honda Ridgeline	4,678	2,960	58.04	27,430	19,797	38.56
Hyundai Santa Cruz	3,627	3,502	3.57	20,050	18,203	10.15
GMC Canyon	2,265	2,469	-8.26	11,724	13,662	-14.19
Nissan Titan	2,199	1,579	39.27	10,550	11,212	-5.90
Rivian R1T	1,473	700	110.43	7,812	1,600	388.25
GMC Hummer EV	16	90	-82.22	65	372	-82.53

trojandawg · Jul 19, 2023

CreepinDeth said:
Frankly I wont ever buy new from the factory again because of this fukkery from the Plandemic and hyperinflation

They have put waaaaaay too many electronics and INVOLUNTARY tracking systems into them for my comfort zone with my privacy. Per my buddy at the State Dept overseas EVERY new vehicle sold today tracks EVERY location its ever been to, and they do not inform the buyer of this

State Dept mercenaries and spies abroad recieve specialized training on how to disable and wipe clean these tracking systems because of the nature of their work. Americans are now lab rats for spying domestically

GM started it all with OnStar back in 1996, and the FBI was remotely and illegally accessing vehicles microphones without warrants. They were told to stop in 2003 and ignored the courts ….nothing happens to them either, and now its full scale

Speakin of Ford, did you see the $2 Billion in SuperDuty inventory sittin in an empty rsce field during the plandemic?? Waitin on Parts abroad….total shitshow what our politicians of the Uniparty allowed to happen

To be honest, this happens with that little device in all of our pockets anyways. It's the world we live in now unfortunately.

freedom_in_4low · Jul 19, 2023

Apparition said:
2023 order banks for Superduties filled up pretty much on day one. People still haven't received some of those trucks and are being rolled to 2024's.

One dealer has an allocation of about 400 2024 Superduties, in that allocation they have been given only 22 platinum model allocations.

Gladiators are stupidly overpriced for what they are in comparison to a normal truck. Look at their YTD sales change -29.49%.

Model Month Month LY Change YTD YTD LY YTD Change
Ford F-Series 72,355 57,673 25.46 382,893 299,345 27.91
Chevrolet Silverado 47,711 46,313 3.02 268,291 261,827 2.47
Ram Pickup 39,743 38,792 2.45 223,050 244,984 -8.95
GMC Sierra 25,598 20,511 24.80 143,008 118,938 20.24
Toyota Tacoma 21,321 21,339 -0.08 116,845 108,648 7.54
Toyota Tundra 9,775 7,098 37.71 59,735 44,316 34.79
Chevrolet Colorado 6,723 7,404 -9.20 33,165 44,190 -24.95
Nissan Frontier 5,812 6,833 -14.94 34,139 43,168 -20.92
Jeep Gladiator 4,643 6,860 -32.32 27,326 38,756 -29.49
Ford Maverick 7,473 3,882 92.50 42,499 38,753 9.67
Ford Ranger 4,415 5,108 -13.57 24,118 33,840 -28.73
Honda Ridgeline 4,678 2,960 58.04 27,430 19,797 38.56
Hyundai Santa Cruz 3,627 3,502 3.57 20,050 18,203 10.15
GMC Canyon 2,265 2,469 -8.26 11,724 13,662 -14.19
Nissan Titan 2,199 1,579 39.27 10,550 11,212 -5.90
Rivian R1T 1,473 700 110.43 7,812 1,600 388.25
GMC Hummer EV 16 90 -82.22 65 372 -82.53

i'm baffled at the difference between the Silverado and the Sierra, given that they are basically the same truck.

Also I wonder how many years are left for the hummer EV with that sort of sales performance.

Apparition · Jul 19, 2023

freedom_in_4low said:
i'm baffled at the difference between the Silverado and the Sierra, given that they are basically the same truck.

Also I wonder how many years are left for the hummer EV with that sort of sales performance.

The guy I know with the new Chevy calls GMC's the Gay Man's Chevy.

The guy I know that drives the GMC won't buy anything less than a Denali and thinks Chevy's are cheap.

For some reason they seem to dislike the other brand as much as they do Ford or Ram.

freedom_in_4low · Jul 19, 2023

Apparition said:
The guy I know with the new Chevy calls GMC's the Gay Man's Chevy.

The guy I know that drives the GMC won't buy anything less than a Denali and thinks Chevy's are cheap.

For some reason they seem to dislike the other brand as much as they do Ford or Ram.

that's hilarious. If one did a hit and run on me in the street, I wouldn't be able to tell the cops which one it was. My mind registers them as the exact same thing.

Apparition · Jul 19, 2023

freedom_in_4low said:
that's hilarious. If one did a hit and run on me in the street, I wouldn't be able to tell the cops which one it was. My mind registers them as the exact same thing.

Generally the GMC looks a bit more gaudy.

RangerTJ · Jul 19, 2023

Shank said:
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Yet more GM trucks are sold every year.

Not sure how that relates to an EB 3.5 vs 5.0 discussion but hooray I guess?

freedom_in_4low · Jul 19, 2023

Apparition said:
Generally the GMC looks a bit more gaudy.

Yeah I guess so. Just not enough for me to notice compared to the difference between them and the equivalent Cadillac.

CreepinDeth · Jul 19, 2023

Apparition said:
Gladiators are stupidly overpriced for what they are in comparison to a normal truck. Look at their YTD sales change -29.49%.

1000% Spot On accurate.
Said that Day 1 when I heard how much they were TRYING To charge people for them.

I laughed, figured the nuance would wear off soon enough......took a few years.

CreepinDeth · Jul 19, 2023

trojandawg said:
To be honest, this happens with that little device in all of our pockets anyways. It's the world we live in now unfortunately.

While that's true, we can disengage at ANY time with our phones, and we should never just "Accept this"
I will end it there, because this will go political. I have a very unique background to display what I've seen, but that's for another thread.

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