FRP tuning for 97-06 TJs

[Wildman]

I did not, because it was prior to offering said discount. I appreciate your service and I have seen your posts about your leg injuries.
I also charge a good bit more now (even with discounts applied) than I did at time of purchase, Richard.

Over the years I've had to tweak the pricing structure a bit to keep a balance between covering the average units of time required to tune, and keeping it relatively affordable for the working man (or woman).

Ryan,
No worries. And yes I think I got a GREAT deal back when I paid for my tuning. Now my only worries are if the SCT unit I have will work or not. It was given to me by the guy I got the stroker engine from and he'd put the stock tune back on his truck. And because I have an unusual setup if it takes more time to get it right we'll work out something as I don't expect you to have to do more work and not be compensated for it.

So do I need to send it into SCT to have something done to it of can I just use it?

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

so you have zero clients with current registration on a vehicle from 1976 or newer from California? yikes.

I cannot be responsible for every customer's whereabouts, or where they register their vehicle. Or how they go about passing smog.
I believe in this crazy concept called "personal accountability" .
California has become such a professional hazard due to their respective political climate and ever tightening emissions laws, it is hard to navigate through what is legal, and what isn't.
My tunes are not CARB EO'd, so if we are using that as a litmus test for acceptable versus not, then that should answer your question.
That said, I do not defeat emissions devices (o2s get left on, evap remains intact, etc) in my tunes.
Some things , mentioned by others in their own posts, do end up passing due to grey areas and "ref's discretion" even though they are technically not legal.
I have had customers that reside in Cali that have previously passed smog and did their due diligence to keep their setups smog legal, that now cannot due to having a non-OEM calibration detected. Certain localities within California are looking for non-OEM calibrations and have the means to do so!
Again, alot of this is very grey and subject to what side of the bed the smog ref woke up on that morning.
Officially , I would tell you to follow your local guidance on engine modifications. They will be the best and most up-to-date authority to speak on the subject.

Speaking only on the subject of emissions output and fuel consumption- my tunes in most cases, if anything, burn cleaner than the factory calibration due to extra timing producing a cleaner burn.
I have passed EURO IV emissions compliance on other older platforms that use the JTEC controller, and see similar stringent emissions standards.

I care about the environment and put my best foot forward towards calibrating with a socially conscious approach.

 

[L J]

I have had customers that reside in Cali that have previously passed smog and did their due diligence to keep their setups smog legal, that now cannot due to having a non-OEM calibration detected. Certain localities within California are looking for non-OEM calibrations and have the means to do so!

Excuse my ignorance regarding tuning but is it possible to reload the factory tune before emissions testing and then once passed load the canned tune again?

 

[SkylinesSuck]

Excuse my ignorance regarding tuning but is it possible to reload the factory tune before emissions testing and then once passed load the canned tune again?

 

[derekmac]

Depending on where you're at in NS I have a few contacts that I could see about flashing your Jeep if or when you are interested. May be cheaper than buying a device.

Oh I'll definitely be interested in that once I get the Jeep back on the road. Due to an upcoming surgery, that probably won't be until the spring time though. For location, I'm about 25min outside of Halifax.

 

[Ocho]

I cannot be responsible for every customer's whereabouts, or where they register their vehicle. Or how they go about passing smog.
I believe in this crazy concept called "personal accountability" .
California has become such a professional hazard due to their respective political climate and ever tightening emissions laws, it is hard to navigate through what is legal, and what isn't.
My tunes are not CARB EO'd, so if we are using that as a litmus test for acceptable versus not, then that should answer your question.
That said, I do not defeat emissions devices (o2s get left on, evap remains intact, etc) in my tunes.
Some things , mentioned by others in their own posts, do end up passing due to grey areas and "ref's discretion" even though they are technically not legal.
I have had customers that reside in Cali that have previously passed smog and did their due diligence to keep their setups smog legal, that now cannot due to having a non-OEM calibration detected. Certain localities within California are looking for non-OEM calibrations and have the means to do so!
Again, alot of this is very grey and subject to what side of the bed the smog ref woke up on that morning.
Officially , I would tell you to follow your local guidance on engine modifications. They will be the best and most up-to-date authority to speak on the subject.

Speaking only on the subject of emissions output and fuel consumption- my tunes in most cases, if anything, burn cleaner than the factory calibration due to extra timing producing a cleaner burn.
I have passed EURO IV emissions compliance on other older platforms that use the JTEC controller, and see similar stringent emissions standards.

I care about the environment and put my best foot forward towards calibrating with a socially conscious approach.

thanks for the clarification! way better answer than post #57

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

Excuse my ignorance regarding tuning but is it possible to reload the factory tune before emissions testing and then once passed load the canned tune again?

I don't mean to be a jerk here, and I know you're asking for the sake of asking, but I'm not sure how much more direct I can be. I cannot advocate circumventing emissions compliance laws.
The EPA is no joke.

 

[L J]

I don't mean to be a jerk here, and I know you're asking for the sake of asking, but I'm not sure how much more direct I can be. I cannot advocate circumventing emissions compliance laws.
The EPA is no joke.

Let's say I live in a Texas local that doesn't have emissions testing and want to swap between a performance tune and an economy tune on an off- highway use only TJ. Can I swap tunes back and forth with the HPTuners MPVI2?

 

[Ocho]

I don't mean to be a jerk here, and I know you're asking for the sake of asking, but I'm not sure how much more direct I can be. I cannot advocate circumventing emissions compliance laws.
The EPA is no joke.

i don’t mind being a jerk but since you do, the jerky part of your answer is not providing an actual answer to a question posed.

in the spirit of this forum which is based on sharing knowledge, i will try to give an actual answer to the question while making everyone aware that i know absolutely nothing about tuners..

it is my understanding that while it is possible to do, you cannot go back and forth between tunes as the tuner leaves a digital footprint on the ECM that will show that the ECM was modified during a smog check, regardless of whatever tune is currently present which is a big no-no in the communist state of California. apparently the only tunes that are California compliant are tunes that carry a specific CARB E.O., which FRP’s tunes do not carry.

the EPA definitely is no joke, unless it is compared to CARB

 

[Ocho]

Double post, I love technology

 

[SkylinesSuck]

No matter how you ask the question, he's not going to advocate any strategy bypass Cali emissions laws.

 

[Ocho]

No matter how you ask the question, he's not going to advocate any strategy bypass Cali emissions laws.

wasn’t asking him to.. actually, i didn’t even ask the question in question..

if the tunes were CARB compliant carrying an E.O., then it is my understanding that it wouldn’t matter how you chose to switch back and forth between tunes. you could run a tune in summer, one in winter, one on the road, one on the trail etc. etc.. therefore, it would be up to the consumer to choose which tune to have programmed during the smog test.

FRP has already mentioned that his tunes are cleaner than factory so it wouldn’t be an issue of social conscience.. this is merely the fact that his tunes are not CARB compliant, therefore should not be used in California from a legal standpoint. the reason you cannot switch back and forth is, from my understanding, the digital footprint that CARB will notice during the smog test. this is a better answer than not answering the question at all in my opinion.

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

i don’t mind being a jerk but since you do, the jerky part of your answer is not providing an actual answer to a question posed.

in the spirit of this forum which is based on sharing knowledge, i will try to give an actual answer to the question while making everyone aware that i know absolutely nothing about tuners..

it is my understanding that while it is possible to do, you cannot go back and forth between tunes as the tuner leaves a digital footprint on the ECM that will show that the ECM was modified during a smog check, regardless of whatever tune is currently present which is a big no-no in the communist state of California. apparently the only tunes that are California compliant are tunes that carry a specific CARB E.O., which FRP’s tunes do not carry.

the EPA definitely is no joke, unless it is compared to CARB

I've not only answered , but done so in explicit detail. I am not going to go round and round talking about emissions compliance in a state that constantly seems to up the ante so I will repeat what I've already stated, and if you need further clarification, this probably isn't for you. I'm obviously not going to advocate breaking the law, either.
My tunes are not CARB EO'd. It is part of the long term plan, but presently, they aren't.
CARB EO is - to the best of my knowledge- required for California.

Emissions compliance is not black and white, there is the issue of tailpipe emissions, and then there is the issue of CARB.
I can pass a sniffer without issue, the show-stopper is CARB.
CARB is a technicality, but it's said technicality that makes it a no-no.

You are incorrect about the digital footprint.

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

Let's say I live in a Texas local that doesn't have emissions testing and want to swap between a performance tune and an economy tune on an off- highway use only TJ. Can I swap tunes back and forth with the HPTuners MPVI2?

As long as your obd2 monitors show up as ready , in essentially every state other than Cali, having a tune loaded is not an issue. Edit: yes you can swap tunes as needed.

I do not do "economy" tunes , I have found that whatever mileage improvement they made was offset by a greater loss in power.

 

[Goatman]

Hell, and I thought "CARB compliant" was depending upon if the Governor needs a new helicopter or just a 3rd swimming pool for the year!
Here in NY they don't even try to hide it anymore.

 

[Gooniehawk]

Can the wranglerfix pcms be tuned?

 

[Goatman]

All of them can be tuned if you can figure out how to unlock them. Dodge has been known to be one of the hardest (used to be unable) to crack. But once you get in then they can be recalibrated. It is much more difficult than that, but basically the way it works. I would have to think if wranglerfix got in to fix issues then they are technically tuning them. So unless Wranglerfix puts the lock code back on then they can be tuned. Certainly by him at least.

 

[Chris]

Can the wranglerfix pcms be tuned?

My understanding is no, they cannot. @Wranglerfix can elaborate and either confirm or deny this.

 

[Wranglerfix]

You can adjust, tires, speedometer and gears as you normally would. Our pcm is not compatible with any superchargers or engine tunes.

 

[Type4]

"One thing to keep in mind, is that these Jeeps do not have knock sensors."
This explains the random pinging on the wifes jeep.
Ryan, What do you need to know to give this thing some pep and better mileage.
Thanks
Russ