FRP tuning for 97-06 TJs

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

The cost of entry (needing to buy a handheld) is keeping my from buying a tune for the jeep right now. I tuned my Colorado, and all I needed was the tune and a cable. Cost me about 350 bucks, IIRC. Used my laptop to tune the vehicle and it was all remote as well.

I look up the tune and a programmer, and its 600 bucks. I don't think your canned tune price is out of line...I just wish there were another way to get it into the PCM.

I dont know what you used to tune your Colorado, but if it was with HPTuners, depending on year of vehicle you could simply re-use it.

HPTuners MPVI1- 05-06 TJ only
HPTuners MPVI2- 97-06
SCT 3200- 97-04 (SCT's support of 05-06 flat out sucks)

Ok, I’ll give it go. Ryan you’re in The Woodlands I’m in Kingwood, do I need to make an appointment or just show up? I can be there tomorrow afternoon whenever I get back from the VA downtown. Looking forward to making this happen! Wheelies at random? Hell yeah!

I charge differently (read: extra) for in-person work because it places different constraints on my time . Remote tunes I can knock out several at a time, whereas in-person I am stuck working on one vehicle, the one in front of me.
I am usually booked about 2 weeks out , in-person appts are done as drop-offs and by appointment.

I live in the Woodlands, but I have a small shop off of 2920 in Tomball.

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

This is why im asking with what tuner would the canned tune work. You can find used sct handheld units for less than 200.

PN# 3200.
Yes, you technically can get a used programmer, but I've seen many people burned by buying vin-locked handhelds, defective handhelds, etc .
By the time that all gets resolved you end up spending more than had you just bought new.

I do have 2 lightly used SCT 3200s , and on occasion get devices returned back to me that were claimed to be "Defective" but end up testing fine on my end.

 

[Fixer6]

I dont know what you used to tune your Colorado, but if it was with HPTuners, depending on year of vehicle you could simply re-use it.

HPTuners MPVI1- 05-06 TJ only
HPTuners MPVI2- 97-06
SCT 3200- 97-04 (SCT's support of 05-06 flat out sucks)



I charge differently (read: extra) for in-person work because it places different constraints on my time . Remote tunes I can knock out several at a time, whereas in-person I am stuck working on one vehicle, the one in front of me.
I am usually booked about 2 weeks out , in-person appts are done as drop-offs and by appointment.

I live in the Woodlands, but I have a small shop off of 2920 in Tomball.

I was being serious except for the wheelie part. How much extra are talking about, with my bone stock 4.0? I don’t want to own a programmer. I agree your time and effort is worth money, and I have no issue making an appointment. I won’t just drop it off though.

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

I was being serious except for the wheelie part. How much extra are talking about, with my bone stock 4.0? I don’t want to own a programmer. I agree your time and effort is worth money, and I have no issue making an appointment. I won’t just drop it off though.

It's my policy to keep personalized quotes in private discussion .
I am confused by your comment about dropping off- that's been my policy since the advent of COVID and will remain that way for a variety of reasons- liability and efficiency being the main ones.


Email me at ryan@frptuning.com and we can discuss in further detail.

 

[Mike_H]

I dont know what you used to tune your Colorado, but if it was with HPTuners, depending on year of vehicle you could simply re-use it.

HPTuners MPVI1- 05-06 TJ only
HPTuners MPVI2- 97-06
SCT 3200- 97-04 (SCT's support of 05-06 flat out sucks)

I used my laptop and a cable provided by Trifecta Performance. No handheld required. They wrote (or found) an app that installs on my laptop and handles the communication to and from the PCM. I am a big believer in tunes. My biggest concern with my Colorado was the factory shift points. Trifecta almost entirely fixed that with their canned tune. Also unlocked a whole bunch of power out of that 3.6L car engine that GM decided to put in a truck.

See, I'm not a guy that wants to tinker with a tune. Especially with a vehicle as old as my wrangler, I'm a set it and forget it kinda guy. I don't want to change a bunch of stuff that isn't proven. I'd rather take something already done, such as you've created, load it, and enjoy it. Have you thought about a "loaner" program for the Handheld? Something like you charge the customer a deposit for the unit, and issue a refund when it's returned? You could probably even include a small service fee of 15% or something. I just hate to spend 300+ dollars on a tuner to throw it in my toolbox and never look at it again.

 

[SkylinesSuck]

It doesn't work like that. SCT or whomever makes sure it doesn't or they would never make any money. Think of the handheld unit as a way to unlock or decode your factory ecu. Your computer or whatever cannot talk to the ecu without it. SCT makes sure each handheld gets married to a specific ecu serial number so you can't go tuning a bunch of different vehicles with one handheld. They would never make money otherwise. That is standard practices in the tuning world. Has nothing to do with Ryan. The handheld isn't just a bonus feature giving you something to tinker with.

 

[SkylinesSuck]

In order to reuse a handheld on another vehicle, you would have to load the stock tune back onto the ecu/pcm it's married to, then send it back to sct to be married to a new ecu which charge costs almost as much as buying it new, and you can only do that a couple of times anyways.

 

[Ocho]

I'd have to think on it.
We offer a pretty significant discount for LEOs, Veterans, and offer a Shop Rate for shop techs/owners.

Let me know when you’re done thinking and I’ll fork it over for a canned tune and handheld!

 

[derekmac]

Hi Derek- I do alot of work north of the border- unfortunately shipping and customs cost has really made it cost-prohibitive.

You'd need an HPTuners MPVI2 + 2 credits, and my canned tune package.

Thanks Ryan. Yeah, getting stuff here really sucks!

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

It doesn't work like that. SCT or whomever makes sure it doesn't or they would never make any money. Think of the handheld unit as a way to unlock or decode your factory ecu. Your computer or whatever cannot talk to the ecu without it. SCT makes sure each handheld gets married to a specific ecu serial number so you can't go tuning a bunch of different vehicles with one handheld. They would never make money otherwise. That is standard practices in the tuning world. Has nothing to do with Ryan. The handheld isn't just a bonus feature giving you something to tinker with.

You're not wrong , however, HPTuners works in a different way that uses "credits " to license and tune additional vehicles with the same interface.

The interfaces are just a cost of doing business for me. If I can ever find the time I'll set up a JTEC bench harness so I can flash these canned tunes and send them out.

 

[Wildman]

I'd have to think on it.
We offer a pretty significant discount for LEOs, Veterans, and offer a Shop Rate for shop techs/owners.

Ryan,
I don't think you gave me a veterans discount when I paid for my tuning. (Which I still haven't been able to use) but my engine is finally getting done and will hopefully be running by spring.

I'll contact you once I am getting close since you said it's gunna take a little extra work to get my 408 dialed in with the F&B 6-Pack intake.

Glad you made it to the forum as I think you'll make a lot of 4.0 owners happy.

 

[Mike_H]

You're not wrong , however, HPTuners works in a different way that uses "credits " to license and tune additional vehicles with the same interface.

The interfaces are just a cost of doing business for me. If I can ever find the time I'll set up a JTEC bench harness so I can flash these canned tunes and send them out.

So...riddle me this. I have a few buddies, and we all have 4.0L engines. One is a 2000 Cherokee, one is a 2000 TJ, and I have an 04 TJ. Could we share a HPTuner, buy 6 credits and use it on the three different vehicles?

 

[Alex0413]

I'm a very happy customer of FRP tuning on my Kenne Bell Supercharger 4.0! I'm two years into my tune, with slow rock crawling in hot summers, screaming it to the rev limiter on the street, and having lots of fun: never a hiccup! He's extremely talented, knowledgeable, thorough , and after sales customer service has been awesome!

If you're going to tune your 4.0 or Mopar platform, don't hesitate to give Ryan a call!

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

Thanks Ryan. Yeah, getting stuff here really sucks!

Depending on where you're at in NS I have a few contacts that I could see about flashing your Jeep if or when you are interested. May be cheaper than buying a device.

 

[B252]

Are your 4.0 tunes California smog compliant?

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

Ryan,
I don't think you gave me a veterans discount when I paid for my tuning. (Which I still haven't been able to use) but my engine is finally getting done and will hopefully be running by spring.

I'll contact you once I am getting close since you said it's gunna take a little extra work to get my 408 dialed in with the F&B 6-Pack intake.

Glad you made it to the forum as I think you'll make a lot of 4.0 owners happy.

I did not, because it was prior to offering said discount. I appreciate your service and I have seen your posts about your leg injuries.
I also charge a good bit more now (even with discounts applied) than I did at time of purchase, Richard.

Over the years I've had to tweak the pricing structure a bit to keep a balance between covering the average units of time required to tune, and keeping it relatively affordable for the working man (or woman).

 

[Flyin' Ryan Performance]

Are your 4.0 tunes California smog compliant?

I would be extremely reluctant to perform any aftermarket modification in California.

 

[B252]

I would be extremely reluctant to perform any aftermarket modification in California.

Bummer.

 

[D M]

Bummer.

honestly though I think a tune wouldnt change anything if its still burning the same... I believe they do a visual inspection, o2 sensor readings and thats pretty much about it. Here in cali as long as you dont have any VISIBLE engine modifications and not rolling coal you can pass no problem. Just goes for saying though I did pass with my custom ford windstar intake which is a no go since its technically altering the engine (the guy was asian, not good english he didnt know what he was looking at and passed it no prob)

 

[Ocho]

I would be extremely reluctant to perform any aftermarket modification in California.

so you have zero clients with current registration on a vehicle from 1976 or newer from California? yikes.