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Steering wandering after Currie Antirock install

Hotchef181818

Hotchef181818

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I’m lost....

I installed my front antirock last weekend and now I’m experiencing what I would describe as hunting while driving. It seems to settle a bit on the highway but driving in town requires constant attention.

I put the Jeep in for a full alignment today to get a baseline on the numbers to see if the caster was off but they didn’t print out a spec sheet and the machine didn’t store the numbers, pretty pissed about that. I did request they set caster to 4.5-5. I had the same issues driving it home.

What’s next ?
 
If you have ever driven disconnected, the antirock should be between that and stock. I've driven with a broken link and on the highway, every corner needed a twitch to set the suspension up. After it was repaired, it was just point and shoot. Have not done the anti rock yet but I know the stock TJ works better on pavement.

Hunting sounds unrelated to sway bar.
 
It can definitely be more “dartie”. It is noticeable when it’s windy for me.
I drove with my stock sway bar off for a few days then installed the AR. I’m at the looses setting. You can move the arms up if you want a stiffer ride
 
Thunderhead said:
It can definitely be more “dartie”. It is noticeable when it’s windy for me.
I drove with my stock sway bar off for a few days then installed the AR. I’m at the looses setting. You can move the arms up if you want a stiffer ride
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It has been windy but sway isn’t my issue from what I can tell. Maybe the stock sway bar was keeping things more stable and hiding an issue but I can’t figure out what I’m missing.
 
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Find your caster angle and toe. There's instructions on how to check this yourself if you have a few basic tools.
 
toximus said:
Find your caster angle and toe. There's instructions on how to check this yourself if you have a few basic tools.
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Done. The issue is I can’t get a consistent caster reading, this why it was put in the shop for an alignment today. I needed to get a baseline to see where is was with caster anyways.

However, neither of those changed with the install of the anti rock. This problem didn’t exist prior.
 
I had the same issue with my Anti-rock. It is a love hate relationship. It does give you some body roll which you compensate for not thinking about it in my opinion.

Here is my suggestion that someone suggested to me, and it worked fairly good. I have my caster set to 6 btw and for reference. I have a 4" currie lift with 33x15 tires. so your mileage may differ.

Try setting your Antirock stiffer. I set mine to the second hole from the front bumper. It actually is drivable now. Before moving it one space It was scary as hell on the freeway, but now it actually is pretty tame. I do have a little hunting as you put it, but it is way manageable. I was going to try the first hole and see if it was even better. I am still considering putting the factory sway back on and running disconnects.

I just can't say that my problems started from the anti-rock for sure because I changed my track bars front and rear and added a 4" lift with new shocks and adjusted pinion heights front and rear, so Mine might be something else, but making the AR on hole stiffer seemed to help me and it isn't really hard to do, so I suggest going to the second to the stiffest hole and giving that a shot.

Also for a frame of reference, when I say mine hunts sometimes, It is now only when I change lanes on the freeway at high speeds, and it doesn't do it all of the time. I think it could be me compensating for the quick turning radius I have now. I am still driving it to see if it is me or the car.
 
ac_ said:
I had the same issue with my Anti-rock. It is a love hate relationship. It does give you some body roll which you compensate for not thinking about it in my opinion.

Here is my suggestion that someone suggested to me, and it worked fairly good. I have my caster set to 6 btw and for reference. I have a 4" currie lift with 33x15 tires. so your mileage may differ.

Try setting your Antirock stiffer. I set mine to the second hole from the front bumper. It actually is drivable now. Before moving it one space It was scary as hell on the freeway, but now it actually is pretty tame. I do have a little hunting as you put it, but it is way manageable. I was going to try the first hole and see if it was even better. I am still considering putting the factory sway back on and running disconnects.

I just can't say that my problems started from the anti-rock for sure because I changed my track bars front and rear and added a 4" lift with new shocks and adjusted pinion heights front and rear, so Mine might be something else, but making the AR on hole stiffer seemed to help me and it isn't really hard to do, so I suggest going to the second to the stiffest hole and giving that a shot.

Also for a frame of reference, when I say mine hunts sometimes, It is now only when I change lanes on the freeway at high speeds, and it doesn't do it all of the time. I think it could be me compensating for the quick turning radius I have now. I am still driving it to see if it is me or the car.
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I guess tightening it up is my next step. I may go all the way and back it out from there to get a “best case” scenario.
 
I believe there's something else going on besides just the Antirock. My TJ tracks straight without any dartiness whatsoever and the Antirock is set to its loosest setting. They're installed by a LOT of people and your issue is definitely very uncommon in my experience.

Did you by any chance air up the tires or let someone else air up the tires about that time? Overinflated tires will make our Jeeps bad at tracking. Your 35's should be inflated to no more than 26 psi when the Jeep is fully loaded but 24-25 psi is good for normal driving with just you and a passenger.

Maybe @mrblaine has thoughts on this....
 
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Jerry Bransford said:
I believe there's something else going on besides just the Antirock. My TJ tracks straight without any dartiness whatsoever and the Antirock is set to its loosest setting.

Did you by any chance air up the tires or let someone else air up the tires about that time? Overinflated tires will make our Jeeps bad at tracking. Your 35's should be inflated to no more than 26 psi when the Jeep is fully loaded but 24-25 psi is good for normal driving with just you and a passenger.
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I wish it was that simple. 24 psi all around.

What’s happening isn’t logical in my mind which is why I’m completely lost.
 
Jerry Bransford said:
I believe there's something else going on besides just the Antirock. My TJ tracks straight without any dartiness whatsoever and the Antirock is set to its loosest setting.

Did you by any chance air up the tires or let someone else air up the tires about that time? Overinflated tires will make our Jeeps bad at tracking. Your 35's should be inflated to no more than 26 psi when the Jeep is fully loaded but 24-25 psi is good for normal driving with just you and a passenger.
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Maybe it has to do with the year of the Jeeps or something else because mine was almost impossible to drive over 60 miles an hour on the freeway. If I was going on an on ramp it was darty really scary. The only thing I did was stiffen the AR on slot per a recommendation and it is now drivable on the freeway. Every now and again as I mentioned earlier it is a little back in forth as I change lane, but not even scary just so I have to pay attention to it in case it happens. I am assuming one more hole and it would be perfect but if not I have no more holes haha.

I can totally understand what the OP is stating. I know I posted a similar post myself and most others said the same thing to me that you are saying, but I totally understand where he is coming from. I am interested if moving it stiffer solves his problem too.
 
ac_ said:
I am interested if moving it stiffer solves his problem too.
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I'd be surprised, there are too many of us running our Antirocks at the least stiff/loosest setting with absolutely zero tracking problems. My thought is there is something else beside the Antirock causing the problem.

If the Antirock was the source of the problem then all of us many Antirock owners would be complaining about it.
 
Jerry Bransford said:
I'd be surprised, there are too many of us running our Antirocks at the least stiff/loosest setting with absolutely zero tracking problems. My thought is there is something else beside the Antirock causing the problem.

If the Antirock was the source of the problem then all of us many Antirock owners would be complaining about it.
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I’d agree Jerry. I don’t think it will fix the problem, I’m wondering if it calms it down though.

If that’s the case.. what issue could be magnified by switching from the stock sway to a torsion bar like the anti rock ?
 
I would try the tightest setting and see if that changes anything. If that doesn't work, I think the only real way to see if it is the anti-rock causing your problem is to reinstall the stock sway-bar to see if your problem is fixed.

People have different tolerances to sway. I drive around with my anti-rock on the loosest setting. But I'm 20 so I don't care about the added sway too much. I don't have much to lose if a suicide crazed deer jumps in front of my Jeep and I end up rolling off a cliff because my anti-rock is loose.
 
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