Oversteer is definitely a thing. Snap oversteer isn't, really, it's just a way of deferring responsibility for holes in one's driving skill set.
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Oversteer is definitely a thing. Snap oversteer isn't, really, it's just a way of deferring responsibility for holes in one's driving skill set.
Oversteer is definitely a thing. Snap oversteer isn't, really, it's just a way of deferring responsibility for holes in one's driving skill set.
264,692,574,195 drivers can't be wrong
Oversteer may have killed them, but not snap oversteer. And dead drivers aren't right or wrong, they're dead. For the record, I'm wearing my pedant hat this evening...the devil's in the details.
Why I need a Formula Ford 1600 and my own personal race circuit to hotlap... 
That was one of my thoughts, too. They couldn't run that on salt for that reason, it would simply destroy the surface. I imagine paved surfaces, especially asphalt, are susceptible to "donating" debris when that vacuum rolls over it. Pavement and concrete are great in compression, tensile, not so much.
That MR2 reminds me of the Pontiac Fiero.
I knew that was coming.
I have no attachment or much knowledge of either car and their crowd, so forgive me, but is the MR2 and Fiero kind of a kissing cousins situation where both understand they're very much alike, but don't want anyone to know, at least not publically?
Like maybe @lBasket also has a Fiero, but he just doesn't talk about it?
I have no attachment or much knowledge of either car and their crowd, so forgive me, but is the MR2 and Fiero kind of a kissing cousins situation where both understand they're very much alike, but don't want anyone to know, at least not publically?
Other than compact, two seat, mid/mid-rear engine, I don't think there was any direct relationship between the two.
I think the MR2 is a car that was very good and realized its potential. On the other hand, I think the Fiero had potential to be a very good car that was never realized, for numerous reasons.
I found the early versions (like the photo above) to be pretty sharp looking for the time.
I have no attachment or much knowledge of either car and their crowd, so forgive me, but is the MR2 and Fiero kind of a kissing cousins situation where both understand they're very much alike, but don't want anyone to know, at least not publically?
My Uncle worked at a Pontiac dealership when these were released in '84. There initially was a fair amount of excitement surrounding them, as at the time, the only other American-made 2-seat "sports cars" (and I'm using that term rather generously, here) were the Corvette, and the
Ford EXP Sports Coupe/Mercury LN7 twins. Fiero was the only rear/mid-engined of the bunch, and also had some weird composite body panels that were easily replaceable. My uncle used to have some literature that showed the car stripped down to its skeleton. All in all, it was a neat little car for its time.
Myself, I prefer the refreshed 1986-'88 GT version.
I like the factory MR2 better, but you see way more Fieros with a V8 than MR2s. I'd take a Fiero with a LS.
I'd take a Yenko Corvair "Stinger" over either of the two, thank you very much!
Actually, I'd take any '65-'69 Corvair over the Fiero or the MR2, even in the 4-door hardtop flavor. But that's just me...
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Everytime I see an Opel Gt, I think baby C3 Vette.
I drove an orange one as a daily driver for about six months (buddy's car). He had several of them through the years. Fun little cars to scoot around in.
Around 1982/'83, there was a fella in Saratoga Springs, New York that owned a body shop, an Opel GT, and a Jeep Commando (Jeepster). He married the Opel's body to the Jeepster's floor pan, and radiused the wheel arches to a larger opening to allow for larger tires. The final result was nice enough to allow him to splash a beautiful black paint job on it. I don't know how long he drove it, but he eventually traded it straight across for a newer Corvette that wasn't more than a couple of years old. I remember seeing the Opel/Jeep at his shop, and if you didn't know that Opel never built a GT in 4WD, you never would've known that it wasn't a factory-built car. So sharp!
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