Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

Nashville TJ's Build - Continued

I got a call from Kaufman on Wednesday telling me the trailer I ordered was complete. Right on schedule - a little less than 4 weeks. So, on Thursday evening I loaded up and drove 500 miles to Lexington, NC to pick it up.

It was a nasty, rainy drive. But, for anyone who wonders why they are called the Smoky Mountains - this is why:

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And here it is:

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Look familiar? It's basically a clone of my current trailer, but instead of a 10K rating this thing is 15K. Kaufman makes good stuff, and this thing is built very well.

15,000 pound rating. No dove tail. Drive-over fenders. 7k axles and 8 lug wheels. 4 brakes. 2 Spares. G-Rated tires. Westlakes. Not great - kind of a middle of the road tire. Given that blowing tires was the entire reason for the new trailer, I may swap them to something likes Carlisles (Now Carlstar?)

So I pulled out the old trailer, and spent the day transferring the ramps and the tool box.


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I wasn't kidding when I said they were clones...
Nice trailer!

So far I have been very happy with Transeagle Radial ST's I am running on both my open and enclosed trailer. I went from Carlisle's on them both to the Transeagle load G.

https://www.transeagletires.com/
 
Funny, I had always been under the impression - from lots of research prior to picking them up - that the Carlisle's were "among the best" for trailer tires. When you see those 12 plys in person, they look like they are designed to run on a semi. 'Course, my personal experience now includes 4 or 5 blowouts on those "among the besties..."
 
Funny, I had always been under the impression - from lots of research prior to picking them up - that the Carlisle's were "among the best" for trailer tires. When you see those 12 plys in person, they look like they are designed to run on a semi. 'Course, my personal experience now includes 4 or 5 blowouts on those "among the besties..."

But I do have to be careful what I say about the Carlisles. Because when I sell the old trailer it's going to come with eight of them.
 
I forget but were you running bias ply or radial tires.

Radials. Here is one without a big hole in the side...

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Makes you wonder if they were a bad batch of tires.

I cant see you being over weight with 4 12 ply tires.

The failures were spread over multiple purchases, so I don't think its a bad batch issue.

3,000 pounds capacity per tire on paper gives me 12,000 pounds. The rig on the trailer is 10,600 pounds - so on paper it should work.

Every one one of the failures on the Carlisles was during the long trek out and back to Moab. Meaning lots of heat buildup I would think (although I monitor the temps of the tires and the hubs when I travel long distance, and have never seen anything alarming).

Prior to the issues, I'd roll along at 80 (the speed rating on these is 81). After the issues started, I cut back to 75 max and still - boom.

I want to believe it was simply a matter of taxing these tires up around their max ratings for long periods of time. I'm hoping that with the new setup, I've pushed these limits up far enough that I'm no longer riding on the edge.

Man, trailer tires, pinion gears - nothing is holding up for me.
 
The failures were spread over multiple purchases, so I don't think its a bad batch issue.

3,000 pounds capacity per tire on paper gives me 12,000 pounds. The rig on the trailer is 10,600 pounds - so on paper it should work.

Every one one of the failures on the Carlisles was during the long trek out and back to Moab. Meaning lots of heat buildup I would think (although I monitor the temps of the tires and the hubs when I travel long distance, and have never seen anything alarming).

Prior to the issues, I'd roll along at 80 (the speed rating on these is 81). After the issues started, I cut back to 75 max and still - boom.

I want to believe it was simply a matter of taxing these tires up around their max ratings for long periods of time. I'm hoping that with the new setup, I've pushed these limits up far enough that I'm no longer riding on the edge.

Man, trailer tires, pinion gears - nothing is holding up for me.

Did you run them at max air pressure?

I know some do and some don't.
 
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Yup. 95 religiously.

The new tires are 110 - somehow that makes me feel tougher...

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I've seen it in big truck tires, where running max air has caused blowouts. (According to a commercial tire guy)

I do know michelin says 105psi is optimal for their big truck tires.

May want to try 105 in the new ones to give room for heat build up pressure
 
I've seen it in big truck tires, where running max air has caused blowouts. (According to a commercial tire guy)

I do know michelin says 105psi is optimal for their big truck tires.

May want to try 105 in the new ones to give room for heat build up pressure

That's a good thought.
 
I've seen it in big truck tires, where running max air has caused blowouts. (According to a commercial tire guy)

I do know michelin says 105psi is optimal for their big truck tires.

May want to try 105 in the new ones to give room for heat build up pressure

I find this surprising. My understanding is tires can handle well over their max cold pressure rating, and higher pressures=less heat buildup.

If you had an already compromised tire then I could see why higher pressures could be a problem.

The failures were spread over multiple purchases, so I don't think its a bad batch issue.

3,000 pounds capacity per tire on paper gives me 12,000 pounds. The rig on the trailer is 10,600 pounds - so on paper it should work.

Every one one of the failures on the Carlisles was during the long trek out and back to Moab. Meaning lots of heat buildup I would think (although I monitor the temps of the tires and the hubs when I travel long distance, and have never seen anything alarming).

Prior to the issues, I'd roll along at 80 (the speed rating on these is 81). After the issues started, I cut back to 75 max and still - boom.

I want to believe it was simply a matter of taxing these tires up around their max ratings for long periods of time. I'm hoping that with the new setup, I've pushed these limits up far enough that I'm no longer riding on the edge.

Man, trailer tires, pinion gears - nothing is holding up for me.

Maybe that's why uhaul says their trailers a limited to 55. Load times speed is how tires overheat. You mentioned the load ratings, what speed rating have you been running?

AI search summary:
"Carlisle trailer tires have varying speed ratings depending on the specific model, with common ratings including 62 mph (J rating), 75 mph (L rating), and 81 mph (M rating). However, Carlisle recommends a maximum towing speed of 60 mph regardless of the tire's rated speed, as the rating applies to the tire's test speed, not the vehicle's safe operating speed"
 
I find this surprising. My understanding is tires can handle well over their max cold pressure rating, and higher pressures=less heat buildup.

If you had an already compromised tire then I could see why higher pressures could be a problem.



Maybe that's why uhaul says their trailers a limited to 55. Load times speed is how tires overheat. You mentioned the load ratings, what speed rating have you been running?

AI search summary:
"Carlisle trailer tires have varying speed ratings depending on the specific model, with common ratings including 62 mph (J rating), 75 mph (L rating), and 81 mph (M rating). However, Carlisle recommends a maximum towing speed of 60 mph regardless of the tire's rated speed, as the rating applies to the tire's test speed, not the vehicle's safe operating speed"

Just what I was told when i worked a commercial michelin tire dealership.
 
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Maybe that's why uhaul says their trailers a limited to 55. Load times speed is how tires overheat. You mentioned the load ratings, what speed rating have you been running?

I'm running the M's - 81 mph.

AI search summary:
"Carlisle trailer tires have varying speed ratings depending on the specific model, with common ratings including 62 mph (J rating), 75 mph (L rating), and 81 mph (M rating). However, Carlisle recommends a maximum towing speed of 60 mph regardless of the tire's rated speed, as the rating applies to the tire's test speed, not the vehicle's safe operating speed"

Dammit!

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As I understand the speed rating, it is the top sustainable speed when operating at the full rated load. The old setup - clearly pushing up against that boundary for long periods of time. Again, hoping the margin of the new setup is enough that I can operate at 75-80.
 
Home from church now.

It's my understanding that staying just below the maximum air pressure gives room for the air to expand in the tire as it heats up

Michelin 14 ply truck tires are maximum rated at 120 psi. Supposedly through trial and testing they determined that 105 was the sweet spot.

Granted your not pulling gross weight of 80,000 lbs like big trucks do, and with the new trailer you shouldn't be close to maxing it out.

And also summer time is the hardest time of the year on trailer tires due to the heat.
 
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Spend some time today and added four D-ring tie down points. Used the same locations as the old trailer.

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Can you explain the strap? The picture’s not super clear when I zoom in. Looks like metal straps that are welded to the trailer frame with the D-rings in the middle bolted through the strap to the deck, but can’t really tell.
 
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Can you explain the strap? The picture’s not super clear when I zoom in. Looks like metal straps that are welded to the trailer frame with the D-rings in the middle bolted through the strap to the deck, but can’t really tell.

It’s these things - secured with 1/2” grade 8 bolts directly to the frame.

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Can you explain the strap? The picture’s not super clear when I zoom in. Looks like metal straps that are welded to the trailer frame with the D-rings in the middle bolted through the strap to the deck, but can’t really tell.

That is not a strap, it is the frame. His trailer has an extension that sticks out past the frame to give it extra width forward and aft of the fenders and thus the outer frame that you see.
 
That is not a strap, it is the frame. His trailer has an extension that sticks out past the frame to give it extra width forward and aft of the fenders and thus the outer frame that you see.

🤣 after Jeff’s response I started going through previous pictures and I was like “oh!” I could see in the other pictures it was the frame. But at first I was like, what is that?
 
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