Front suspension cycling

[Wildman]

I think @Wildman has a press and he's five hours north of me.

-Mac

I'm only a couple of hours away from him.... I can watch as he works.... I'm still limited on my wearing my prosthetic.

 

[PG.]

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I'm only a couple of hours away from him.... I can watch as he works.... I'm still limited on my wearing my prosthetic.

I’ll let you know if it comes to that. Thanks though.

 

[Wildman]

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I’ll let you know if it comes to that. Thanks though.

My shop is available...

 

[PG.]

Finally got a hold of the stock cover. No good. Still interfering even with the axle pulled as far back as it can go. Which would really limit my turning with fender contact and still have track bar interference. Is it just bend the track bar at this point? I need to get this cleared so I can move on to figuring out better shock size and what my uptravel/down can be. Right now it’s not good.

 

[Rickyd]

What is your rim width and backspacing?

Something is off here. I have a rubi 44,currie tracbar and steering.1.5" bumps and it all barely clears with the axle roughly where the stock arms put it.

It is possible the machined surface for the cover is further out from the centerline of the tubes. Does the currie axle have larger diameter tubes?

You probably need to look into moving the frame mount and bending the bar like jjvw. Some highline fenders give more clearance at the back of the wheel opening

 

[PG.]

Rims are 15x8. Back spacing is 4.5 with 1.5 spacers. I need 2 inch bumpstops to keep from bottoming out the shocks. That leaves about 1/2 inch shock shaft showing. Currie axle tubes

• 3 in. Diameter, .5 in. Wall DOM Axle Tubes

 

[jjvw]

Rims are 15x8. Back spacing is 4.5 with 1.5 spacers. I need 2 inch bumpstops to keep from bottoming out the shocks. That leaves about 1/2 inch shock shaft showing. Currie axle tubes

• 3 in. Diameter, .5 in. Wall DOM Axle Tubes

Rims are 15x8. Back spacing is 4.5 with 1.5 spacers. I need 2 inch bumpstops to keep from bottoming out the shocks. That leaves about 1/2 inch shock shaft showing. Currie axle tubes

• 3 in. Diameter, .5 in. Wall DOM Axle Tubes

Your bump stops are 1/2" too long and are stealing a 1/2" of shock travel.

From my standpoint, it seems you need a cheap Harbor Freight shop press and a day of bending, cycling and refining. No 4wd shop is going to do this kind of work.

 

[PG.]

I need to find room in the garage I guess. Harbor freight has a 20 ton. I gonna check marketplace. I have a ridiculous amount of tools but it’s never enough.

 

[macleanflood]

I put locking castors on mine and welded an expanded metal basket for the bottom.

Can roll it out of the way when not needed...and it's easy to get clearance on larger items by rolling the press around.

-Mac

 

[PG.]

I put locking castors on mine and welded an expanded metal basket for the bottom.

Can roll it out of the way when not needed...and it's easy to get clearance on larger items by rolling the press around.

-Mac

The casters will be helpful for me to move it around.

 

[JMT]

I need to find room in the garage I guess. Harbor freight has a 20 ton. I gonna check marketplace. I have a ridiculous amount of tools but it’s never enough.

Buy a used press, fix the bar, sell the press.

I don’t have room either.

 

[PG.]

Your bump stops are 1/2" too long and are stealing a 1/2" of shock travel.

From my standpoint, it seems you need a cheap Harbor Freight shop press and a day of bending, cycling and refining. No 4wd shop is going to do this kind of work.

My shocks bottom out with 1/2” shaft showing. If I didn’t have that extra 1/2” I would be slamming down on my shocks wouldn’t it? I though it was strange the shock body would not fully go down so I disconnected the shock and was able to get bump stop cup about 3/4” from contacting the pad on axle when my lower control hits the frame.

 

[jjvw]

My shocks bottom out with 1/2” shaft showing. If I didn’t have that extra 1/2” I would be slamming down on my shocks wouldn’t it? I though it was strange the shock body would not fully go down so I disconnected the shock and was able to get bump stop cup about 3/4” from contacting the pad on axle when my lower control hits the frame.

Shocks define the travel. The jounces are used to slow down the final bit of travel speed before full shock compression.

If you are going to end up reshaping the track bar to make things fit, then you are going to use all your shock travel. Though, I have lost track of why the lower control arm is hitting the frame before full shock compression. That is something else to figure out if you are going through the effort to make stuff fit.

 

[lumberjacklloyd]

My shocks bottom out with 1/2” shaft showing. If I didn’t have that extra 1/2” I would be slamming down on my shocks wouldn’t it? I though it was strange the shock body would not fully go down so I disconnected the shock and was able to get bump stop cup about 3/4” from contacting the pad on axle when my lower control hits the frame.

That is correct; give it at least an 1/8" of clearance from bottoming.

I do not understand how the lower arm is hitting the frame.

 

[lumberjacklloyd]

What is your rim width and backspacing?

Something is off here. I have a rubi 44,currie tracbar and steering.1.5" bumps and it all barely clears with the axle roughly where the stock arms put it.

It is possible the machined surface for the cover is further out from the centerline of the tubes. Does the currie axle have larger diameter tubes?

You probably need to look into moving the frame mount and bending the bar like jjvw. Some highline fenders give more clearance at the back of the wheel opening

Stock cover? What is your closest contact point?

 

[lumberjacklloyd]

Shocks define the travel. The jounces are used to slow down the final bit of travel speed before full shock compression.

If you are going to end up reshaping the track bar to make things fit, then you are going to use all your shock travel. Though, I have lost track of why the lower control arm is hitting the frame before full shock compression. That is something else to figure out if you are going through the effort to make stuff fit.

If the shocks bottom with a 1/2" of shaft showing, you shouldn't set up bump stops for a 1/2" less of travel...

 

[jjvw]

If the shocks bottom with a 1/2" of shaft showing, you shouldn't set up bump stops for a 1/2" less of travel...

If that is what the shock physically does, then you still make the jounces do their job of slowing down the final bit of travel speed.

If one installs RockJock bump stops, there is no hard limit to travel coming from the bump stops. They only slow down the travel speed.

 

[PG.]

Stock cover? What is your closest contact point?

With the stock or Currie cover the first point of contact is the track bar on diff cover. I removed the cover just to clear the track bar and the next point of contact is the shocks bottom out. If I remove the shocks still with the cover off my next point of contact is lower long arm hits the frame before rock jock upper jounce hit the metal bump pad on the axle. I posted earlier how I had a local off road shop do the work this time as I was busy running my own business and was willing to pay someone to do it. That was a mistake so now I’m left figuring out what he did wrong and clearly didn’t cycle the suspension when doing the install because iv had a ton of interference problem since. I have moments thinking these might be the wrong parts because things aren’t adding up.

 

[JMT]

With the stock or Currie cover the first point of contact is the track bar on diff cover. I removed the cover just to clear the track bar and the next point of contact is the shocks bottom out. If I remove the shocks still with the cover off my next point of contact is lower long arm hits the frame before rock jock upper jounce hit the metal bump pad on the axle. I posted earlier how I had a local off road shop do the work this time as I was busy running my own business and was willing to pay someone to do it. That was a mistake so now I’m left figuring out what he did wrong and clearly didn’t cycle the suspension when doing the install because iv had a ton of interference problem since. I have moments thinking these might be the wrong parts because things aren’t adding up.

If the shocks bottom out that is your limit. Set your bumpstop as mentioned above. Did you put your tire on at this point to make sure it clears? If so your shocks are your limit and you don’t need to worry about the lower arm hitting the frame.

 

[PG.]

If the shocks bottom out that is your limit. Set your bumpstop as mentioned above. Did you put your tire on at this point to make sure it clears? If so your shocks are your limit and you don’t need to worry about the lower arm hitting the frame.

Yes tires clear. I have 1.5” left before tire is into fender. It’s 5.5” uptravel. Problem is down travel is only 3 3/4”. The kit said they were supposed to be 10inch travel shocks. I’m only getting 9.