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Dana 44 re-gear and locker install

97TJNM

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Greetings, everyone!

I've been wanting to do a regear (or more accurately, replace my front diff gears) since I axle swapped my TJ. I bought the axles several years ago, and the front diff has had gear howl the entire time. It was hard to bear on longer trips, like when I go hunting every year. The sound changed drastically a couple months ago, and I've been driving my WJ while I gathered parts.
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I suspected that a bearing failed, and today I was able to get it in the local High School's shop for a week, and use their lift before students come back next month. (One of my buddies works at the school, and got permission from the shop teacher.)
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It was definitely a bearing. The ring and pinion have no obvious flaws, but the bottom of the diff is full of metal glitter, and the gear oil was black.

I have Revolution 4.88 gears and master install kit, a Yukon Zip locker (to replace the factory Rubicon locker that was in the axle) and another master install kit from Yukon, and we'll as extra seals. All bearings are Timken and all seals are Spicer.

Tomorrow I'm going to pull the locker, the pinion, the seals, etc, and work on trying to get a initial pattern run. I've watched @hosejockey61 videos on this, and am basically starting this thread so that @hosejockey61 and @Blackjack can critique my work and help me get it dialed in. I'll be posting patterns over the next several days and hopefully getting it all correct by the end!

I've bought a ton of tools (bearing pullers, seal installers, seal press, in/lb dial indicator, etc) so I'm pretty sure I have everything to be successful! Wish me luck, and stay tuned, hopefully the resident experts dont get too fed up with me in this thread!🤣
 
Is that how you positioned the Jeep on the lift? BY the looks of it, I'm sure the lift is a 12k but I'd try to center the Jeep to the posts. They're surprisingly very 50/50 biased.
 
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Is that how you positioned the Jeep on the lift? BY the looks of it, I'm sure the lift is a 12k but I'd try to center the Jeep to the posts. They're surprisingly very 50/50 biased.

Good to know! I have no experience with a lift, so I put it on, got as far forward and as far rearward as I could with the arms, lifted it about an inch off the ground, then shook the crap out of it. It felt solid, but I'll try to get it more centered on the post this morning. Thank you for the critique! Headed to the school in about 20 minutes!
 
😁 I'll be out on a trail today and not home until the evening, so be patient. Some others in here can set you in the right direction as well.

No worries! Im going to try to get an initial pattern run by around noon or 1pm, then I gotta go cook a Jambalaya. Same buddy that got me the shop access is having a barbecue this evening, so I'll be eating brisket and drinking beer until I get direction for ya'll anyway! Second pattern won't be run till tomorrow.
 
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Starting to see what the issue wwas.no bearings have catastrophic failure, but the driver side one is a little rough. Also, driver side of the locker is chewed up on the inside, and the pinion had NO CRUSH SLEEVE!😬
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I was very careful of the inner baffle, but I assume due to having no crush sleeve the baffle was already jacked up. Looks like I'm going to have to find a new one.🙄
 
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Starting to see what the issue wwas.no bearings have catastrophic failure, but the driver side one is a little rough. Also, driver side of the locker is chewed up on the inside, and the pinion had NO CRUSH SLEEVE!😬View attachment 632918View attachment 632919View attachment 632920

I was very careful of the inner baffle, but I assume due to having no crush sleeve the baffle was already jacked up. Looks like I'm going to have to find a new one.🙄

Dana 44's use shims, not crush sleeves. I'm look at the rest later.
 
I have an inner pinion setup race and a setup nut, like hosejockey uses in his video. He didnt use an outer setup bearing on the pinion.

Today was an exercise in frustration. I got the axle stripped, got the pinion "in" for purposes of running a pattern, but played the devil getting the locker shimmed correctly. I got backlash of .014, which seemed too much. After that, I set it up like 4 more times and it was always too tight to get any backlash. I was frustrated, so I walked away for the day.

I'll start fresh tomorrow.
 
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An outer pinion bearing makes it easier to nail down pinion preload shim stack.

Start with the original pinion depth shim(s), adjust backlash to spec and check backlash at 3 locations along the ring gear. Always good idea to check carrier run out while you're at it.
 
An outer pinion bearing makes it easier to nail down pinion preload shim stack.

Start with the original pinion depth shim(s), adjust backlash to spec and check backlash at 3 locations along the ring gear. Always good idea to check carrier run out while you're at it.

An outer setup bearing isn't needed. It doesn't get pressed on, it's an interference fit. A punch and hammer knock the pinion back out with ease.
 
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An outer setup bearing isn't needed. It doesn't get pressed on, it's an interference fit. A punch and hammer knock the pinion back out with ease.

I won't do another 44 without a setup bearing. In the past I used the final outer bearing during setup and have gummed up pinion threads trying to seat the outer bearing to run patterns. Even with a setup nut, I don't trust bearing/race mfg's anymore. I've thrown out many that are out of spec.
 
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Finally got everything figured out. Im a hands on learner, so even though I watched hosejocky's videos, it took playing with it a bunch to understand how the pinion and ring gear interact.

1st pattern:
Pinion shim:.065
Passenger side shims:.288
Driver side shims:.278
Backlash:.060

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