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Help with a diagnosis (possible heat soak / bad cats?)

NCLJ

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2006 LJ 6 speed manual.
My son took ownership of the Jeep last week as he just got his license. Him and a few buddies went out cruising. He called me after they had stopped at a gas station and said there was a check engine light. He was able to limp home. Read the code, it was Cyl 3 misfire. Cleared the code and drove it down the road, it felt fine.

2 days later, it does it again, this time, it is saying multiple cyl misfires detected. Clear the code, wiggle some things, take it for a drive, come home let it sit. Fire it back up and you could instantly feel it bucking but never threw a code.

I noticed that the temp gauge is sitting at 210, this jeep has never sat at 210, always a little less.

I changed the crank sensor and thermostat and burped the coolant system. Also added about half a can of seafoam.

He took it down the road, pulled in the garage, still running 210. I let it run in the garage while we look over things. I go to the back of the Jeep and instantly smell rotten eggs. I know this is a sign of bat cats, but could it have been from the seafoam?

The Jeep is a well known Jeep repair shop. I'm tired of guessing. They called me this morning and said they couldn't duplicate it. I told them to wait until later this afternoon when it is hot outside.

Thoughts/ideas?
 
I've had mine throw cyl misfires before and a can of Techron with some spirited driving to blow out the carbon has always cured it.

As it's an 06, sometimes the OPDA has been known to cause misfires and throw cam/crank sensor codes.

This is not a normal PCM issue, but be aware that 06 PCMs are known for failing. Shutting off while driving, gauges dropping out are symptoms.

Plugged cats will result in loss of power and an exh shop should be able to test the backpressure.

Assuming the plugs are in good condition. How old are the upper O2s?
 
I've had mine throw cyl misfires before and a can of Techron with some spirited driving to blow out the carbon has always cured it.

As it's an 06, sometimes the OPDA has been known to cause misfires and throw cam/crank sensor codes.

This is not a normal PCM issue, but be aware that 06 PCMs are known for failing. Shutting off while driving, gauges dropping out are symptoms.

Plugged cats will result in loss of power and an exh shop should be able to test the backpressure.

Assuming the plugs are in good condition. How old are the upper O2s?

OPDA was replaced last year.
PCM was replaced many years ago when my mother in law owned it (she bought it new).

Plugs are new as of late last year and upper O2s are original.
 
Depending on the mileage, you might want to change the O2s. NTK is the OEM and the only ones you want to use if you replace them.

Do you have a code reader to display the actual temp? The gauge readings are damped.

This is deep in the weeds, but several yrs ago I noticed mine had started to run slightly warmer for no reason. Finally determined the MAP sensor reading was off and causing a slightly lean condition. Read the MAP sensor with the engine off and compared to the atmospheric pressure reading on the phone sensor.
 
Depending on the mileage, you might want to change the O2s. NTK is the OEM and the only ones you want to use if you replace them.

Do you have a code reader to display the actual temp? The gauge readings are damped.

This is deep in the weeds, but several yrs ago I noticed mine had started to run slightly warmer for no reason. Finally determined the MAP sensor reading was off and causing a slightly lean condition. Read the MAP sensor with the engine off and compared to the atmospheric pressure reading on the phone sensor.

153k miles. I think the code reader I have will display the actual temp. Will have to wait to get it back to report the finding.
 
You can probably read the MAP sensor as well. Just turn the key on, don't start. Read the MAP sensor. Using a barometer app, read the station, aka absolute, pressure on your phone They sho.uld be close. Don't use the weather pressure as it's corrected to sea level.

If the PCM is an OEM replacement it will eventually fail again.
 
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With the gauge looking "ok", on the way home on the highway at 70MPH, I would guess I was around 220-225 degrees the whole way.
 
The MAP sensor is on the throttle body.

Above the tag in this pic.

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I would have thought you would get a CEL with no reading.

Maybe it is just unplugged.
 
Looks like everything is plugged in. I will dive further into it after the engine has cooled off. I have an ARB in that location so I think I'll have move it to get a better look.
 
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