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Utah Moab in May 2025

Is most of the group on similar builds? 35's F&R lockers? I really want to do the cool stuff, just don't want to be the guy holding people up.
 
Is most of the group on similar builds? 35's F&R lockers? I really want to do the cool stuff, just don't want to be the guy holding people up.

Most of the trails we do aren't alllll that difficult in all honesty, except pritchett. I've done most of them on 31s and/or 33s with just a front lunchbox locker.
 
Most of the trails we do aren't alllll that difficult in all honesty, except pritchett. I've done most of them on 31s and/or 33s with just a front lunchbox locker.

Cool, Pritchett is one I really want but see how first couple days go first. I was reading trails rated 6-7 are reasonable for my build but no first hand experience. Super pumped no matter what! Be cool to put faces with the call tags from the group. I'm running GMRS, that pretty standard? Moab needs some kind of pass now too right? Something to get ahead of time?
 
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Cool, Pritchett is one I really want but see how first couple days go first. I was reading trails rated 6-7 are reasonable for my build but no first hand experience. Super pumped no matter what! Be cool to put faces with the call tags from the group. I'm running GMRS, that pretty standard? Moab needs some kind of pass now too right? Something to get ahead of time?

Do you have lockers? Didn't see that on your profile. Don't think you'd have a fun time on pritchett without them.

Yeah we use GMRS normally.

Idk about any pass I haven't ever paid for one, isn't that an OHV thing?
 
Do you have lockers? Didn't see that on your profile. Don't think you'd have a fun time on pritchett without them.

Yeah we use GMRS normally.

Idk about any pass I haven't ever paid for one, isn't that an OHV thing?

I a have a rubi, selectable stock lockers F&R, 35's geared to 5.13. I heard Moab implemented some kind of off road pass starting last year. I'll look it up
 
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As of January 1, 2023, Utah law requires all OHV operators to complete a Utah Off-Highway Vehicle Education Course before riding on public land, roads, or trails. Operators under 18 must obtain a Youth OHV Education Certificate. Operators 18 and older must possess an Adult OHV Education Certificate.

https://recreation.utah.gov/off-highway-vehicles/education/ohv-education-course/#:~:text=(Free & Online)-,Utah Adult OHV Education Course (Free & Online),or trails in the state.

Looks like may just be for non plated vehicles. Saw something warning about it in a Colorado 4x4 group last year
 
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I a have a rubi, selectable stock lockers F&R, 35's geared to 5.13. I heard Moab implemented some kind of off road pass starting last year. I'll look it up

You should be fine to run pretty much whatever trails you want. There's some spots the long arm on a TJ might get a bit light on the front end especially if your shocks are unpredictable.
 
As of January 1, 2023, Utah law requires all OHV operators to complete a Utah Off-Highway Vehicle Education Course before riding on public land, roads, or trails. Operators under 18 must obtain a Youth OHV Education Certificate. Operators 18 and older must possess an Adult OHV Education Certificate.

https://recreation.utah.gov/off-highway-vehicles/education/ohv-education-course/#:~:text=(Free & Online)-,Utah Adult OHV Education Course (Free & Online),or trails in the state.

Looks like may just be for non plated vehicles. Saw something warning about it in a Colorado 4x4 group last year

You have to give them credit, it has clear goals and is free. You don't often get that from governments.
 
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As of January 1, 2023, Utah law requires all OHV operators to complete a Utah Off-Highway Vehicle Education Course before riding on public land, roads, or trails. Operators under 18 must obtain a Youth OHV Education Certificate. Operators 18 and older must possess an Adult OHV Education Certificate.

https://recreation.utah.gov/off-highway-vehicles/education/ohv-education-course/#:~:text=(Free & Online)-,Utah Adult OHV Education Course (Free & Online),or trails in the state.

Looks like may just be for non plated vehicles. Saw something warning about it in a Colorado 4x4 group last year

My understanding was that anyone operating a vehicle on trails was required to take this training. I did it when they first implemented it. It's quick and easy.
 
My understanding was that anyone operating a vehicle on trails was required to take this training. I did it when they first implemented it. It's quick and easy.

I did it too. Figured it’s better to have it and not need it than the reverse. Keep a copy on my PHOOOOOONNE!!1!!
 
I did it. It’s important to do what we can to keep trails open. This is an easy one.
 
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If my Jeep is not categorized as a street legal OHV, then I will not take Utah's test. The problem is figuring out what a Type III OHV is.
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The silly thing, if I am reading things correctly, is that a vehicle can be considered to be a Type III, if it has been modified to travel over unimproved terrain. Who determines that? Has this thing been modified to travel over unimproved terrain?
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The silly thing, if I am reading things correctly, is that a vehicle can be considered to be a Type III, if it has been modified to travel over unimproved terrain. Who determines that? Has this thing been modified to travel over unimproved terrain?
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Someone went “All In”
 
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The “permit” is different than the “certificate.” We don’t need a “permit.” Chances of needing to show the “certificate” are low, but I’m sure that’s what they want people with rigs like ours to have.

Then we need to see where they require a certificate for a street legal registered passenger vehicle.
 
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