If that's the case, than the dealership should cover the payments until its out...
Stop buying new Jeeps
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ejay
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In this regard I like my TJ for the same reason I like my mechanical watch.
Exactly. Just because you *can* put a microprocessor in something doesn't mean you *should*.
How is this any more advanced than a 1984 Cherokee ? same crap different day.
How ever this is the same concept used by everyone's 4X4 system today, Chevy, Ford, Ram, Toyota eta.....
This is not like locking hubs. Only the right wheel is disconnected and the inner half of the right axle shaft turns in the reverse direction to the outer half. This of course means that the differential spider gears will be spinning around like crazy. I have heard that this concept was first tried back in the early 70s but was quickly abandoned. It definitely is not used by everyone’s Chevy, Ford, Ram, Toyota, etc.How is this any more advanced than a 1984 Cherokee ? same crap different day.
How ever this is the same concept used by everyone's 4X4 system today, Chevy, Ford, Ram, Toyota eta.....
I disagree with the writer, I want people to buy them. Buy them all.
My 9 year old son wants a mojito green 4 door rubicon. He has saved every penny he has ever gotten. Birthdays and work pay from neighbors. The boy has over $2000.
So when he turns 16 and the Coolness of the Jeep that is now 9 years old. My son will be able to pick a very clean never abused JL cheap
My 9 year old son wants a mojito green 4 door rubicon. He has saved every penny he has ever gotten. Birthdays and work pay from neighbors. The boy has over $2000.
So when he turns 16 and the Coolness of the Jeep that is now 9 years old. My son will be able to pick a very clean never abused JL cheap
Interesting, as I recall the early 70's you had: manual lock out hubs, automatic hubs, full time 4X4, or drive flanges.
Please share these other examples.
Thank YouLook at Chevy IFS since 1988 to today, Dodge ( Ram ) trucks since 1994, Ford IFS 4X4, Toyota pickups 89 and up, Tacoma 1997, (AAD) and up,
Jeep Cherokee 84 -90 and Wrangler YJ's pre 95.
About the ONLY exception is Ford Super Duty, and some older Toyota HiLux pickups, some Nissans, Samurai's etc...( lock out hubs ).
Please take a look online at CAD, ( Center Axle Disconnect ) All these examples work the same way, disconnecting one axle side from the diff. allowing free rotation through the spider gears. Just like new Jeeps.
Some of the older systems used vacuum to move the shift collar, GM used a "thermal actuator" to shift ,( Real Dumb )
Most newer systems are electric shift.
Personally, I like the TJ and 91 and up Cherokee direct drive setup.
However if you had extreme lift and driveshaft angles, lock out hubs would be your friend on the highway !
If this was the only issue with new Jeeps I could get around it. However with all the other multitude of of electronic nannies, electronic power steering, auto start / stop, 2nd mini battery under the floor, and touchscreen controlled crap that is less than reliable count me out.
Hell, seems like the new Jeep has issues even building a 3.6 pentastar that doesn't missfire.
He said to buy them because they are cool. But don't add every option because its like putting lipstick on a pig
I would trade most of the options they offer in newer Jeeps for better suspension, drivetrain, axle and wheel options.
It took the Bronco to knock sense into Jeep regarding factory drive train upgrades.
I would trade most of the options they offer in newer Jeeps for better suspension, drivetrain, axle and wheel options.
It took the Bronco to knock sense into Jeep regarding factory drive train upgrades.
I sold an LJ so I could buy a JL when it came out. It was a OK daily driver and an OK Jeep. I had issues one day with the traction control freaking out on the middle of an 18 mile one way trail around Durango. It was my Ah-Ha moment. I decided right there that I wanted simple. No ABS, No Traction Control, No Power Door Locks, No Engine Start/Stop, nothing.
Traded in the JL on a used Honda Pilot to drive to work and picked up another LJ to build my way. It will be the last Jeep I own most likely.
Traded in the JL on a used Honda Pilot to drive to work and picked up another LJ to build my way. It will be the last Jeep I own most likely.
this is an old post, but i have always felt the same way about Land Rovers. People spend stupid money on these trucks and they NEVER ever take them off road. The truck was literally designed to go off-road in luxury. I kept my old Discovery II for 12 years and spent way less on it than I ever did on my current TJ. Had a blast driving the shit out of it in all sorts of terrain and always bothered me to see soccer moms or old folks drive these things in pristine condition without a hint of off-roading. Oh well! to each his own. Enjoy!
You said the same thing in this very thread in 2021. Maybe if they regeared them with big tires they could justify going off-road.
https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/stop-buying-new-jeeps.57334/post-1008480
Not limited to Land Rovers.
How many buy a Rubicon because it's a Rubicon, having no clue what makes a Rubicon different?
Several years ago a friend of mine bought herself a JK Rubicon.
I asked her how she liked the lockers, disconnects, and such that come with the Rubicon.
Blank stare.
Me: Why did you pay extra for a Rubicon if you're not going to use the Rubicon features?
Her: Because it's a Rubicon.
Shocker, it turned out to be a POS and had several "gotcha" issues that sowed mistrust of it as a commuter vehicle.
The final straw was when the TIPM failed when she got home from work and she couldn't shut the engine off.
They called me to come over and look at it idling in their driveway.
I unplugged the TIPM and it shut off.
The TIPM had to be replaced and it was an expensive fix.
She traded it within a week after getting it back.
I saw this many times at the county I worked for . Sheriff Patrol Ram pickups had failures of the TIPM . Junk , expensive Junk.
These people have been overlanding in their Defender for almost 10 years. Just by chance I happened to meet them when they were in Tucson:
https://www.a2aexpedition.com/
Let them keeping buying expensive toys and sell them to us whenever they get tired of them, Jeeps, Land Rovers, etc.
I cant lie, I do love those old Land Rover Defenders and Series II and II-a and IIIs. My father taught me how to drive in one of those old Series II LR. They are so nostalgic to me. I love my Jeep TJ equally as much.
Isaac Boone
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Yeess! And the thing with land rovers are people actually soup them up to make them look "cool" and off road and wont see dirt. Like g wagons are kinda "off-road" but no one would do that to a gwagon.
Isaac Boone
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Oh ya dude land rovers used to be crazy cool and capable but then they didn't like being cool and useful and started selling to rich people who don't like good looking cars
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