Yep. When I first started wheeling, I wanted to reach out with my arm to try and push off of things. I really had to work on my kids when they started to ride along. Keep all body parts inside of the ride at all times.
Why off-roading without doors and a hardtop is not a good idea
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Yep. When I first started wheeling, I wanted to reach out with my arm to try and push off of things. I really had to work on my kids when they started to ride along. Keep all body parts inside of the ride at all times.
99.9% of people are not like this but...
Most of the time I would say practice practice practice, but this stuff is a little different. Hard to practice worst case so it takes a little more work if you dont spend time there. You have to practice and be mindful day to day in your head when its not all bad. Thats not easy.
I drive with my thumbs out on the wheel always. And if your hands cant fix what's going bad in the car, give the wheel to Jesus, hug yourself tight(literally) , and keep your eyes open.
Got a bit more details:
They were going down a sand hill and tucked the front pass wheel.
Her friend was in the front riding shotgun.
It rolled over on its side crushing his arm under the rollbar.
There were 3 SXS with them, 5 guys and their kids
The 5 guys got the Jeep rolled back over and went to work on him.
A couple of them had first aid training not sure what but they put a tourniquet.
Got him inone of the SXS and raced staight to the hospital In Joshua Tree which was about 15 miles away.
Striaght to ER who they had called assoon as he got him free from the Jeep.
They to the staff that his arm was crushed, Not sure what they exactly told them. Details are not clear.
But when the got there the Chopper was already on route to pick him up to trans [port to Palm Springs.
Doctor said that they save his life rather than whating for the paramedics to get to the roll over location.
Also the proper first aid to stop blood loss.
He was lucky that there were enough guys to right the Jeep and that at least one know proper first aid and went to work on him right away.
We live out in the sticks.
I always tell my wife do not call 911 get in the car and drive to the hospital in our cast that is 40 milrs from our house. Call on the way.
If we were to call 911 it take them about 25 minutes to get to us from the fire house that is 22 miles from our place if the take the right dirt roads.
Which can be a challange if you have never been to our place.
Get to the county road and haul ass th Prarmedicc can meet us on the way because by the time they would get to our hose we will be abou 10 miles from the hospital.
They were going down a sand hill and tucked the front pass wheel.
Her friend was in the front riding shotgun.
It rolled over on its side crushing his arm under the rollbar.
There were 3 SXS with them, 5 guys and their kids
The 5 guys got the Jeep rolled back over and went to work on him.
A couple of them had first aid training not sure what but they put a tourniquet.
Got him inone of the SXS and raced staight to the hospital In Joshua Tree which was about 15 miles away.
Striaght to ER who they had called assoon as he got him free from the Jeep.
They to the staff that his arm was crushed, Not sure what they exactly told them. Details are not clear.
But when the got there the Chopper was already on route to pick him up to trans [port to Palm Springs.
Doctor said that they save his life rather than whating for the paramedics to get to the roll over location.
Also the proper first aid to stop blood loss.
He was lucky that there were enough guys to right the Jeep and that at least one know proper first aid and went to work on him right away.
We live out in the sticks.
I always tell my wife do not call 911 get in the car and drive to the hospital in our cast that is 40 milrs from our house. Call on the way.
If we were to call 911 it take them about 25 minutes to get to us from the fire house that is 22 miles from our place if the take the right dirt roads.
Which can be a challange if you have never been to our place.
Get to the county road and haul ass th Prarmedicc can meet us on the way because by the time they would get to our hose we will be abou 10 miles from the hospital.
I worked the ER for 10 yrs at Desert Regional where they took him. It’s a level II trauma hospital. They have 2 amazing Trauma Surgeons there. If they could not save his arm no one could. Unfortunately we saw these types of injuries often. The most common cause was from vehicles leaving the desert roads at high speeds hitting the soft sand on the shoulder and rolling multiple times. Life changing moments.
Sorry about your daughter's friend!
Keep your top on and windows rolled up all you want, in between obstacles. If I'm spotting you, you should have your windows open so you can hear. I'm all for keeping all body parts inside at all times.
Regarding calling 911 and waiting, vs. trying to drive yourself to the hospital: If there's any chance of losing consciousness, don't drive.
Keep your top on and windows rolled up all you want, in between obstacles. If I'm spotting you, you should have your windows open so you can hear. I'm all for keeping all body parts inside at all times.
Regarding calling 911 and waiting, vs. trying to drive yourself to the hospital: If there's any chance of losing consciousness, don't drive.
FWIW I ordered the book off ebay for $9 and free shipping. Looks like that was the only one priced that low, now they are all $50- $80. Looking forward to reading it. What's more it's a John Muir publication.
My current position is instructor at a helicopter simulator.
I teach Primarily air ambulance.
I've had the life flight pilots in Moab come through and they are 95% scene calls.
My aviation days I've heard of getting fingers de-gloved from bad maintenance, yet he explained to me a client had his whole right arm de-gloved from holding the rollbar in a SXS.
So it's not the hard top or doors that will save you. In a big enough roll, there won't be much left of that fiberglass top. It's the understanding that you need to be grabbing your shirt, seatbelt, or the handle by the glove box.
I teach Primarily air ambulance.
I've had the life flight pilots in Moab come through and they are 95% scene calls.
My aviation days I've heard of getting fingers de-gloved from bad maintenance, yet he explained to me a client had his whole right arm de-gloved from holding the rollbar in a SXS.
So it's not the hard top or doors that will save you. In a big enough roll, there won't be much left of that fiberglass top. It's the understanding that you need to be grabbing your shirt, seatbelt, or the handle by the glove box.
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