What is this connector and how to get replacement?

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Buddy with an early (maybe 98 I think) found his connector busted on the harness side. Anybody know if that's a common industry connector type that could be bought new or is he gonna have to start pillaging the salvage yards?

Based on location I was thinking crank position as it's down the middle part of the firewall but the connector doesn't match.

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Edit: it almost reminds me of an ABS connector but it's been a few years. In that case he can probably send it because I'm pretty sure he has a 44 or an 8.8 which means he probably defeated the abs long ago.
 
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NskLJ said:
That broken connector has 4 wires the crank sensor looks like 2 wires
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I'm admittedly confused about that. I'm 600 miles away though and can't look for myself, but he says it goes to the sensor on the bell housing. I think the ckps does have 3 pins, but that's still not 4.

Edit: he sent more photos and I updated thread and OP to reflect new info.
 
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Now to find a replacement. I see some companies make O2 sensor pigtails and connector repair kits but I'm coming up empty on anything for an early TJ.
 
freedom_in_4low said:
Now to find a replacement. I see some companies make O2 sensor pigtails and connector repair kits but I'm coming up empty on anything for an early TJ.
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why not just splice in the connector for a later year and use that year's O2 sensors going forward?
 
hear said:
why not just splice in the connector for a later year and use that year's O2 sensors going forward?
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Because 10-20 years from now whomever owns that Jeep will be on this forum posting about trying to figure out what O2 sensors work and why there's the wrong connector.

I just engine swapped my lift from a 40 year old Briggs and Stratton IC 18 to a new Predator 670 22 HP engine. The hydraulic pump bolted right up to the new engine...needed three washers for additional spacing.

Point being it was entirely possible in the beginning of O2 sensors for folks to use one standard connector for every f-ing O2 sensor on the planet. But they didn't.

Insert story of Roman chariots and railroad tracks.

Rant over ... Following because both my clips are broken out of my connectors and they're both cable tied together. Love to properly fix something.

-Mac
 
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freedom_in_4low said:
Now to find a replacement. I see some companies make O2 sensor pigtails and connector repair kits but I'm coming up empty on anything for an early TJ.
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Some O2 sensors cannot be spliced directly as the most sensors pick up a reference o2 signal through the wire. If you cut the wires you will see usually one wire where the insulation is not tight fitting around the wire this is picking up the reference o2 for comparison. Bosch is one of the largest supplies of O2 sensors, they advertise they are the only ones who pull the air through the wires. I do not know if they make the sensors for Jeep though. I would be interested to know but I don’t have a old sensor to cut apart.
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hear said:
why not just splice in the connector for a later year and use that year's O2 sensors going forward?
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macleanflood said:
Because 10-20 years from now whomever owns that Jeep will be on this forum posting about trying to figure out what O2 sensors work and why there's the wrong connector.
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this. I've spent enough curses on "that guy" to not want to be him by setting up some future owner for a massive headache. But it's not my Jeep, and my friend may not care.

JKP said:
TJs don't like Bosch O2 sensors.

The MOPAR O2 sensors are made by NTK. Use only MOPAR or NTK sensors.
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The sensor and it's connector is fine, the broken connector is on the vehicle harness side.
 
macleanflood said:
Because 10-20 years from now whomever owns that Jeep will be on this forum posting about trying to figure out what O2 sensors work and why there's the wrong connector.
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That's his bad for selling his jeep. I can't even fathom such a thing. :p
 
On my 04, the o2 sensor connector's are made by tyco /amphenol (Say Amp on the bodies). You can find them on mouser, but there are many variation to them…the little “keys” will be in different orientations for the different sensors.

It’s probably best to go to a yard for it…buying a new connector requires buying the connector body, terminals, sealing boots, and locking tabs. Then you need to be able to properly crimp the terminals
 
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