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Drilled in to wiring harness

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So I goofed up yesterday. And I need some advice. My jeep is an 04 wrangler tj that has the 4.0L engine, 5 sp 4wd.

I put a ditch light bracket on and was just gonna hook up the passenger side one to try out the light.

So my first mistake (amateur move and I knew better) was not unhooking the battery and I could kick my own behind for that!

I was drilling a hole in a metal lip with a self tapping screw so I could run the wires. And I accidentally drilled in to a harness 😔

And yes I seen sparks so I immediately back the screw out but the damage was done. And where I done this is on the passenger side of the jeep. I’m going to post pics. I had to find some pics to use that were not of my jeep but similar, just to use to stow where I drilled in to the harness.

After I unhooked the battery I took off the plastic protector and the tape stuff that was on the wires… I didn’t go all the way thru any of the wires tho.

I nicked like 3-4 wires. Unfortunately I don’t remember the colors of the wires. Like i said I just nicked in to a few of them so I just took black electrical tape and taped them up and wrapped it all back up.

So I put the battery cables back on the jeep and when I went to start it, it would only turn over but not start 😔

I didn’t recall hearing my fuel injection so I turn the key off then on battery just to see if my fuel injection was working and it wasn’t. I tried this several times to be sure it wasn’t kicking in and it never did.

I did have headlights and I had brake lights and my radio lit up…. But I noticed that my gauges wasn’t doing any thing. My gas gauge and the three other gauges were laying down like they were just deader than a door knob 😔

So my poor jeep is out of commission and I desperately have to have it back up and going ASAP…

I’m a single mom (no support) trying to make ends meet for my kids and my self. This is one of the main reasons I do my own mechanic work is to save money and do my own modifications cuz I enjoy doing things like that. I’m a tomboy (have been all my life) and I love doing mods on my vehicle.

I’m just stumped on what to do to fix this problem that I created by pulling an amateur move and it’s a rookie mistake and I definitely won’t do it again and I knew better……

I hope this isn’t going to be an expensive fix.

Im not 100% familiar with how to use a tester but I have an uncle that is an electrician and my cousin knows how to use the tester so I can call him to come help me test… but i need to know what to test and what numbers I’m looking for.

Could it be one of the relays or fuses (two diff kinds of fuses) under the box by the battery. I did pull the regular fuses under that box that’s by the battery and none of them were blown. But the other square fuse looking things with a clear lid/top, I’m not real familiar with those either so I left them alone. I also pulled some of the fuses behind the glove box and none of those were blown.

I’m at a loss of what to do or what to try or what to test…..

I’ll post pics to show approx where I drilled in to that harness and I’ll also label the pics as to which is my jeep

And which ones are not my jeep but they are similar to mine tho. I can look later to

See what color wires I nicked if that would be of any help…



Any help for this gal would be so very much appreciated…. Thanks in advance for those that can offer some advice… or maybe a link(s) to video(s)… I can’t thank you all enough…. I got to get my Nelly girl going… I’m missing work while she is down and I can’t afford to do that at all…. Thanks again and so sorry for the long book I posted 😏



And from now on I WILL DO MY BEST to NOT make a ROOKIE MISTAKE!



I love This whole forum… it’s been very informative and all the ppl here seem to be super nice and helpful….

My jeep is a 2004 wrangler TJ 4.0L engine 5 sp 4x4

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I'm sure others who are more knowledgeable will be here shortly, but I would start with opening up the wire loom where you drilled into it so that you can separate and inspect the damaged wires. I'm not an electrical expert by any means, but it might be as simple as adding some butt connectors in to replace any damaged wires. Take some photos of the wiring once you open it up and post here, in sure you'll get the advice you need.
 
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Have you checked the other fuse panel?

It’s behind the glove box. Open your glove box door and unhook the teather and take the door off. You’ll see the panel easily.

See if anything’s blown there.

Hopefully you didn’t damage a relay. But I’m sure someone else with more knowledge will chime in soon.
 
Start be disconnecting the battery. Remove covering. I would unwrap the tape from beside the pcm and pull the covering back.
Inspect the wires carefully, there may be a wrap of tape to remove. If the insulation is damage a drop of silicon and a wrap of tape can seal it. If the copper strands are damaged I would cut the wire and use a shrink seal butt connector. Reconnect the battery,Then check all the fuses. You can pull fuses one by one and inspect for damage without a meter or test light. Replace blown fuse recheck for starting.
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Open up the loom and inspect

Fastest is
Cut, strip, buy heat shrink tubing style crimps and reconnect
They may be a bit large if numerous required in one spot

I personally use a crimp, solder, and heat shrink separately but thats me
All with battery disco obviously

If it gets too hectic
You can also insert a metripack connector
 
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Thank you all so very much… I did open up the protective cover and tape and seen that a a few wires were nicked and I just black taped them but I’ll take a pic and post the wires that are damaged… I checked a bunch of fuses but going to check them all…., I didn’t see any blown last night but I’m gonna double check tho… I’ll post more pics shortly

And thank again y’all!!!
 
Here are the pics of the ones I cut in to… one of yellow with a red stripe… one of red with a white strip and one is just plain blue but I’m not sure that it’s cut into and I also circled another red and white wire that may have a tiny cut in it…

I checked all the fuses behind the glove box and none of those were blown and I also checked the fuses under the hood and none of those were blown but I wasn’t for sure how to get out the fuses with the clear top so I just left those alone…

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per the service manual for your year, https://wranglertjforum.com/attachments/2004-tj-service-manual-pdf.14043/
about 1/4 down the top (while scrolling), Page 8W - 80 - 40 gives you some information on wire colors for that area of the harness.

red with a white stripe appears to be "fused B(+)" which appears to be a constant 12 volt source of power from the battery.

yellow with a red stripe points to "fused ignition switch output" or "speed control on/off switch sense". this depends on which of the 3 harnesses that plug into the computer / powertrain control module that yellow/red wire leads to. it appears that there are two yellow/red wires in that loom.. dont know which one you nicked.

either way, not sure if its any help but thats what im seeing when looking up wire colors. maybe someone else can snowball some ideas based on what the wires service o the vehicle.

not seeing anything for the blue and black wire.
 
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per the service manual for your year, https://wranglertjforum.com/attachments/2004-tj-service-manual-pdf.14043/
about 1/4 down the top (while scrolling), Page 8W - 80 - 40 gives you some information on wire colors for that area of the harness.

red with a white stripe appears to be "fused B(+)" which appears to be a constant 12 volt source of power from the battery.

yellow with a red stripe points to "fused ignition switch output" or "speed control on/off switch sense". this depends on which of the 3 harnesses that plug into the computer / powertrain control module that yellow/red wire leads to. it appears that there are two yellow/red wires in that loom.. dont know which one you nicked.

either way, not sure if its any help but thats what im seeing when looking up wire colors. maybe someone else can snowball some ideas based on what the wires service o the vehicle.

I took a pic of the plug that the harness goes to … and thank you so very much for all y’all ….
I hope I can get my girl back on the road today/tonighy

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Based on that loom & plug on the power module, I would say that you jumped 12v to the "fused ignition switch output".

just putting things together from what im seeing in the manual. what shorting the 2 wires together means though, I do not know.

Possibly you fried the ignition switch maybe the powertrain module? if I were to blindly throw parts at it if you did check all the fuses... id try replacing the ignition switch, but im not familiar with the symptoms of what doesnt happen when they do fail.
 
One of those knicked thicker red/white wires could be the main power to the PCM. Not sure what kind of short circuit protection the PCM would have i this case.
 
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From your description of events and pictures, it seems most likely that you popped a fuse by shorting one of the damaged wires to ground via the sheet metal screw into the body, which is grounded. I see the following wires nicked in your photos:
  1. Red with a white stripe (called RD/WT in the manual)
  2. Dark blue with a black stripe (called DB/BK in the manual)
  3. Yellow with a red stripe (called YL/RD in the manual)
I don't think the second one would cause it not to start. That wire appears to be the wire that turns the A/C clutch on via Fuse 21 in the PDC (the box shown in your pictures). The third one is the wire that energizes the starter relay coil through Fuse 20 in the Fuse Block (behind glove box), and since it cranks, I don't think that one is the problem. The leaves the first one. The RD/WT wire would be where I would start because it's fused battery power to the PDC, and the fuses for it are large capacity, which would cause big sparks when you shorted it.

So, the RD/WT wire could be either Fuse 9, 10, or 20 in the PDC (the box shown in your pictures). Those fuses are:
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My money is on Fuse 9 being the culprit because it powers many things, including the fuel injectors, via the ASD relay. Be sure that one is good first!

You could have popped any/all of the fuses above, but I think Fuse 9 would be the most likely to cause it not to start. Check the others, too, though, because they could be popped, too.

Good Luck!
 
Mark @Wranglerfix will be invaluable here-

He will know the wires functions and what, if anything, damaged the PCM.

I suspect a fried relay or fuse.

Keep your chin up, you have good people here to help you.
 
From your description of events and pictures, it seems most likely that you popped a fuse by shorting one of the damaged wires to ground via the sheet metal screw into the body, which is grounded. I see the following wires nicked in your photos:
  1. Red with a white stripe (called RD/WT in the manual)
  2. Dark blue with a black stripe (called DB/BK in the manual)
  3. Yellow with a red stripe (called YL/RD in the manual)
I don't think the second one would cause it not to start. That wire appears to be the wire that turns the A/C clutch on via Fuse 21 in the PDC (the box shown in your pictures). The third one is the wire that energizes the starter relay coil through Fuse 20 in the Fuse Block (behind glove box), and since it cranks, I don't think that one is the problem. The leaves the first one. The RD/WT wire would be where I would start because it's fused battery power to the PDC, and the fuses for it are large capacity, which would cause big sparks when you shorted it.

So, the RD/WT wire could be either Fuse 9, 10, or 20 in the PDC (the box shown in your pictures). Those fuses are:
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My money is on Fuse 9 being the culprit because it powers many things, including the fuel injectors, via the ASD relay. Be sure that one is good first!

You could have popped any/all of the fuses above, but I think Fuse 9 would be the most likely to cause it not to start. Check the others, too, though, because they could be popped, too.

Good Luck!

If you look close at fuse #9 in the OP's pic of her Jeep, even though the lighting is reflecting off of it, you can almost see a section of the metal strip opened up on the right center of the fuse, unless that is the reflections playing a trick,
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If you look close at fuse #9 in the OP's pic of her Jeep, even though the lighting is reflecting off of it, you can almost see a section of the metal strip opened up on the right center of the fuse, unless that is the reflections playing a trick,

Good post.

She sure deserves credits for good pics.
 
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