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Interesting note in this article
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/hertz-is-selling-20000-used-evs-due-to-high-repair-costs/
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/hertz-is-selling-20000-used-evs-due-to-high-repair-costs/
And soon it will be everything, they're funneling us towards 'subscription plans' for all consumer goods possible, all part of the overarching plan:
That's right. The smartphone model is being applied everywhere. I refuse to participate.
CreepinDeth
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Shouldnt we call it the electricity model??
Electricity monthly service fees for over a century?
Oh damn wait…..I forgot about water
Hell that goes back to the Roman Empire
Don't be dense. I'm not that stupid, and neither are you.
I don’t really see how it’s the ‘smartphone model’ either, they didn’t invent monthly service charges, subscription plans, or built in obsolescence, they all looooong predated smartphones.
I think their biggest sin really is guilt by association in that they’ve become a portable conduit to social media which is apparently addictive to the level of insanity. People walk around staring at their phones largely to reply to or reading replies from others, taking selfies to post on social media, making videos to post, and so forth. Social media has killed real social interaction, and, given voice to the criminally insane among us that used to be relegated to standing on street corners yelling at clouds.
The device itself is nothing more than a tool, an inanimate object, incapable of being ‘good’ or ‘evil’, it takes a human actor to add one of those.
Not unlike a gun.
True enough - BUT - the smartphone accelerated the phenomenon to trans-warp speed. The TelCos have gotten people used to paying outrageous prices for a sub-optimal (at best) device - and replacing it every 2 or 3 years. Now that has spread everywhere, because idiots will pay hard earned money for pseudo-"services", like enabling heated seats on cars, or whatever. Expensive mobile data plans, etc, etc.
"Social Media" is the great evil of our time - coupled with its smartphone delivery system its a Goebbels wet dream. Even though some of such sites are available through computers, the smartphone has multiplied the downsides exponentially - something I frankly don't understand, but I don't understand "Social Media" either (No, I don't count forums as "Social Media", I wouldn't so insult one).
The difference is a gun is a single purpose device that does one thing - fire bullets - very well. Its not a jack of all trades, master of none that does nothing particularly well - except extract money from its owner. With that said, it does indeed take a "human actor" - I've never understood the fanaticism surrounding both smartphones as well as "social media". A quote I found recently:
I hadn't thought of this until I encountered this quote - although I had noticed it in reference to "Social Media" - but the guy is dead nuts correct. Criticize or abstain from either, and the fundamentalist apologetics will bombard you from all sides. I've said for years that Zuckerberg has QUITE the product - dare to criticize it and the apologists will come screaming out of the woodwork!
When the iPhone was introduced in 2007, I examined the concept like I do all new tech. What it looked like to me was that the failed Newton PDA had been grafted onto a cell phone. Not necessarily a bad idea, if one wants/needs a PDA. However, I skipped the whole PDA craze as I didn't need one, although I thought they had their place. But at the price that the iPhone commanded, it was a complete non-starter with me. I didn't need it and I was certainly not paying the price demanded. Having dismissed the iPhone as something I wasn't interested in, I promptly forgot the thing's existence. Smartphones just weren't in my world, I'd see them on occasion, but never gave them much thought one way or another. Whatever - I didn't care...
... until about 2016, when the smartphone culture abruptly came to my cognizance. I had pulled my flip out for whatever reason in a meeting at work, and a co-worker had a comment. "You call THAT a phone?". Thus, I was introduced to "smartphone expectation", which was new to me! That was my first realization that it's all about the PHOOOOOONNE!!!
You make good points.
I’m not defending all things smartphone as I agree they have provided another means by which humanity has hastened its own inevitable demise, but at the same time I don’t think they need to do the near infinite number of things they’re capable of doing better than anything else, for my uses they only need to do the ten +/- things I use them for in a competent & economical manner, and the iPhone has more than delivered on that in my experience. For me it’s an invaluable business tool, by far the most important one I can point to during my 33 years in business, no other single tool even comes close & I spent more than half of that time in business without smartphones as a basis for comparison, and there is no comparison.
For others it’s a brain rotting financial drain.
As related to the gun analogy, it’s simply to say in the hands of a fool it can destroy his life & perhaps some of those around him, in the hands of a competent individual it can save his & perhaps others. Smartphones share similar characteristics even if less dramatic.
I was listening to Kudlow on Fox Business (magic radio) he was talking about EVs. He said dealerships have EVs collecting dust in their lots, people don't even want to rent them.
The government is pushing car makers to continue to make a product for the most part very few want.
Now on the subject of subscriptions, Nissan wants me to pay them 8 bucks a month so I can remote start my car. F*** that. They should remove the remote start system that I paid for and give me back the money.
The government is pushing car makers to continue to make a product for the most part very few want.
Now on the subject of subscriptions, Nissan wants me to pay them 8 bucks a month so I can remote start my car. F*** that. They should remove the remote start system that I paid for and give me back the money.
I assume that’s to remote start with an app? Can you remote start with a key fob?
CreepinDeth
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Most new cars have this feature
All it is, is telematics access thru the wireless carriers
FWIW you do NOT need the APP
The FOB remote can typically do it for free but limited to 5 mins,
For the subscription you can just use a webpage portall for the more detailed starts with AC temp for like 10 mins, ….
DO NOT use the APP, because its leeching data from the car as you drive and uploading it to insurance carriers. This is shady as fuck because theyre NOT warning consumers
More surveillance state Bs
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Won't work with the fob, might be an issue with my car? Everything else works on my altima except the remote start. When I had the free nissan connect trial it worked fine, then I got the letter asking me for money.
I never bothered to bring it to the dealership because I just jump into the car and go. I guess I should get it checked while it's still covered by the warranty.