Savvy TJ body lift doesn't include urethane bumpers

[mrblaine]

I get it. I was similarly worked up when I ordered a JKS rear track bar and it came with their proprietary joint instead of the JJ they used to have (and was still pictured with, at the time. I didn't get anywhere with their customer service, either, but ultimately ended up installing it and haven't had any issues in 10k miles so far.

I hope no one orders a Super 16 from me with its outdated pics I haven't had time to get to for the last 5 years and expects to get the inferior version in the pics.

I don't think the stock bumpers are urethane, they seem pretty soft to me,

Urethane is not an indicator of hardness.

and in that regard, the extension is probably a better arrangement to maintain the same response as the factory bumper. I didn't pay enough attention to the page to notice they said anything about urethane snubbers so I didn't think anything of it, other than that I wouldn't have minded some new ones since my stock bumpers are long in the tooth and the one on the driver side is about ready to fall off.

I suspect it is an artifact from when they misguidedly sold the JKS body lift and they just went through and sorta updated the description. The factory snubber is the superior arrangement to support the grill which is why I designed the extensions to work with them.

 

[mrblaine]

Should have just spun some pucks on the lathe if bar stock wasn't so expensive.

There's more than a few of us that would have been happier if you would have.

 

[mrblaine]

What's funny is I almost went with that kit because I bought the steering shaft support separately. I didn't want the longer poly supports though.

You're smarter than you look.

 

[mrblaine]

Best quality jeep parts come with chapstic anyways. Everybody knows that.

Who the fuck does that and why is my lip balm inferior?

 

[mrblaine]

I have several of his parts. He's much nicer on the phone than online.

How about now?

 

[mrblaine]

I can confirm! He called me a fucktard the other day on the phone.

But was I wrong?

 

[mrblaine]

Was he wrong? Lol....

NO

 

[mrblaine]

He insisted he wasn't wrong.

Which of the 20 fucktarded things we've discussed was this one about?

 

[mrblaine]

Believe me. I tried. But it was already written on the white board.

That's damn sure what I wrote. Find part for fucktard.

 

[mrblaine]

Genuine question, why is that the case?

The frame moves around a bunch under articulation and it squashes the crap out of the factory snubbers trying to push the grill around. That's why it has a center pivot and two snubbers so it can move. They are best retained when one does a body lift.

I once built some very fancy mounts so I could drop a winch line down through the area to hook onto the front axle. That meant the factory support had to go away. Took about 3 trails in JV before it ripped the bottom corners of the grill out. That's how I learned what they do and why they are the way they are.

 

[mrblaine]

I'd guess because it keep the factory relationship with the grill to the frame rather than adding an extra long rubber snubber that would flex more than intended?

The urethane snubbers that are extended are very hard and do not flex well at all. One of two things happens, they tear up or tip over but at no point do they work correctly.

 

[mrblaine]

That's the plan, when I get to that point I will address it. No big deal, just a little false advertising.

You fucking sniveled over a bolt grade that does not matter, that's a big deal.

 

[jjvw]

I hope no one orders a Super 16 from me with its outdated pics I haven't had time to get to for the last 5 years and expects to get the inferior version in the pics.

...

I try to hide it. Do you know how distrustfull I am of you because I expected my raised sway bar mounts to have cutouts?! How am I supposed to strap the Jeep down?

 

[mrblaine]

I call bullshit..if this was any other produc besides savvy you and everyone else would be pissed. How hard is it to update a website to reflect what is shipped?

Very fucking hard at times. Kat has a few good days here and there. On those days she has far more important things to do than correct pictures on the site that have been outdated for at least 5 years. I am not capable so I depend on her and her abilities that her illness lets her do when it feels like it.

I don't think it's the missing bumpers that the OP is upset about, it's the misleading/dishonest description.

Except for the fact that he got far better value for his money than the description says he will get.

If I sell you a brake caliper that says it comes with crush washers and they aren't included you would bitch up a storm..be honest about it

I'd bitch about that because it diminishes function. This one enhances function.

 

[mrblaine]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but it seems that the OP received something that was superior to what was described.

By a long shot and then some.

 

[rasband]

I try to hide it. Do you know how distrustfull I am of you because I expected my raised sway bar mounts to have cutouts?! How am I supposed to strap the Jeep down?

I drilled holes in mine.

 

[mrblaine]

Read their description and be outraged.

Blow a fucking gasket is more like it.

 

[mrblaine]

I’ll probably go Motobilt. They answer the phone AND send stickers.

I send stickers all the time.

 

[mrblaine]

That's what we're trying to understand, why would someone complain about something extra, i.e. superior to what he expected? Seems that is exactly what the OP is doing

It is.

 

[lBasket]

I send stickers all the time.

I want some

Oh right yeah also my brakes suck ass